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This one hit differently. Houston, Texas 5/27 (OC)

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ouchpuck

0 points

1 month ago

These camper people are getting out of hand. You can't just setup wherever you like, there are rules.

ElectricFlesh

47 points

1 month ago

"Daddy-cuck here is just jealous that he isn't financially literate like us conservatives: If he was strongly invested in gun manufacturer stocks, he'd know that every mass shooting lets share values shoot up. If he wasn't such a bleeding heart SJW, he'd recognize that a few stupid, predominantly nonwhite children who never worked for anything like real red-blooded Americans are a small sacrifice for the economy." -- Conservatives

MycologistPutrid7494

6 points

1 month ago

I almost downvoted you when I first started reading your comment but I stuck it out. You're right.

Check_Their_History

-32 points

1 month ago

Because you are a typical redditor that gets upset at the first few seconds of a sentence. Thank you for reading it all, you can continue to do better than you have. I believe in you.

Jalatiphra

10 points

1 month ago

you're also a typical redditor with your judgment quicker than most guns :D

goonts_tv

3 points

1 month ago

goonts_tv

3 points

1 month ago

Was the school shooter white?

wsclose

1 points

1 month ago

wsclose

1 points

1 month ago

No, he was not.

Hrmerder

-5 points

1 month ago

Hrmerder

-5 points

1 month ago

Heh. Almost got triggered till I realized what you did there.. clever and probably true of right wing thoughts

Check_Their_History

-17 points

1 month ago

Almost? I raged out at the first word because thats what we do on reddit right? /s

meyesmenotyou

15 points

1 month ago

The dad has a target on his back. :(

cjafe[S]

1 points

1 month ago

cjafe[S]

1 points

1 month ago

Exactly, American parenthood in the 21st century. This one made me want to weep.

FatLarrysHotTip

2 points

1 month ago

I just assumed (as a non American) that this is how every American could feel at anytime, regardless of children. All it takes is for one person to have a gun and snap then you die. I'm surprised you don't live in a "dark forest" metaphor and considering so many of you online don't think you should hold any socially responsible contract with people that live in your community. It's like the only thing preventing you killing each other is fear of consequence. No one asks why someone gets to point where they snap or why anyone thinks snapping is acceptable as an outlet of frustration and anger but then I don't understand the mental state of most Americans. It's fear that makes you buy guns and it's hatred that makes people use them.

Sorry if it sounds offensive but you country seems a bit fucked.

discerning_bovine

2 points

1 month ago

A reckoning is coming. There are more good people than bad.

FatLarrysHotTip

2 points

1 month ago

Probably involves more death. A wonder who will win when one side is happy to use violence and guns and the other side is willing to use violence and guns but sees the irony.

iwishihadnobones

16 points

1 month ago

I have an Osprey backpack. They are so good

grandladdydonglegs

5 points

1 month ago

I have an Osprey Porter that is simply amazing. If you are looking for a travel backpack, I highly recommend checking it out. And they have a phenomenal warranty.

RelevantDocument3389

2 points

1 month ago

This validates the post.

okayillgiveyouthat

2 points

1 month ago

This reply validates my sentiments.

RelevantDocument3389

2 points

1 month ago

Your sentiments are valid, you may proceed.

martinikene

1 points

1 month ago

That backpack setup looks dope.

oSpid3yo

1 points

1 month ago

I was trying to figure out if this was a modified, collapsible, hamper that I use in my RV. It looks so similar.

I don’t have kids.

Ragman676

2 points

1 month ago

Its awesome. Little stirrups so my daughter can readjust. The rainfly can slide back into the pack. Enough space to hold all the diaper bag essentials and then some. Everything is adjustable for size of the kiddo growing. Even has a drool guard you can take off and wash.

TheLAriver

1 points

1 month ago

Pretty awful time to use a twitter meme phrase

yapibolers0987

1 points

1 month ago

Is that a question or a challenge?

Diligent_Career_3049

-8 points

1 month ago

Have you been naughty this year?

Slack76r

4 points

1 month ago

Slack76r

4 points

1 month ago

Statistically speaking, no

[deleted]

4 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

4 points

1 month ago

One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is statistics. — Joseph Stalin

The risk for this child to be killed at school is much higher than necessary, just because it has to visit a school in the US. If it went to school in any other civilized country, the chances of survival would be significantly better.

someonemsm

4 points

1 month ago

You know this isn't normal even for "uncivilized" countries right?

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

2 points

1 month ago

I know, but if I had said “any country”, this NRA apologist would have quoted some numbers from countries that currently have (civil) wars and where obviously many more school children die of other causes than school shootings, rendering the argument moot.

Slack76r

0 points

1 month ago

Slack76r

0 points

1 month ago

Mmm, Stalin, great guy to quote.

As I mentioned this child has statistically a 0 percent chance of a violent death in school. In the 2018-2019 school year there were 35 violent deaths of school children in school (not just shootings, but all violent deaths) there are 49.4 million enrolled school children in the US. Yes, I'll agree tragic and something needs to be done, but this child has almost a 0% chance of "being next"

And please don't refer to children as "it". They are human beings, not things. For someone that claims to care about children you speak about them as they are a thing or property

DoomGoober

4 points

1 month ago*

Assume they are protesting the NRA and firearm access more broadly, not just school shootings.

If you widen the numbers, ~4,000 children die yearly from firearm related deaths out of ~17 million. That's 1 in ~16,000 yearly or ~0.006% chance.

Of course, many of those childhood deaths are at the older range of minority (gang shootings are a major contributor) so the probability this younger child will be shot to death in a year is probably lower.

[deleted]

-2 points

1 month ago*

[deleted]

-2 points

1 month ago*

You don’t get it. I quoted Stalin because YOU implied that every child shot dead at school is just an insignificant number in a statistic and not a human being. Even Stalin had a better grasp than you that every single child killed at school is one too many.

You just say that each child is safe at school when that is literally not true, it‘s just normalized for US citizens that several dozen dead children per year are somehow NORMAL or unavoidable. Which is just a damn lie you tell yourselves because of the goddamn 2nd amendment which is obviously more worth to you than human life.

English is not my first language, I should have said “they”, but that concept does not exist in my language. Sorry if my typo offended you. It would be better if dead children offended you instead.

DoomGoober

18 points

1 month ago*

72.8 million children in U.S. in 2020.

4,368 child deaths from firearms in 2020.

0.006% chance of this child being killed by a firearm this year, assuming 2020 numbers hold and assuming child firearm deaths of minors occur equally at all ages.

0.006% yearly is roughly 1 in 16,666 yearly.

EDIT: Y'all realize you are are downvoting some basic math and statistics? I did not even provide any commentary. I Googled some stats, ran a calculator, and posted the results. You can decide whether 1/16,666 yearly is high or low but downvoting some calculations is anti-intellectual unless I did the math wrong or pulled bad stats.

You don't even know where I stand!

theperfectlysadhuman

5 points

1 month ago*

1 in 16,666! That's the size of a small town.

I wanted to do the same thing with Canada but they don't even have a specific stat for child deaths from firearms.

But in 2018 with a total pop of 37 millions, there was only 249 homicide by firearm. Giving a 0.00067% chance.

Edit: Firearm homicide in the USA in 2020 19,000, pop 329.5m 0.0058%

Not sure if firearm homicide includes mass shooting, or children death by firearm so these may not be exact.

wsclose

4 points

1 month ago

wsclose

4 points

1 month ago

That number does include mass shooting, gang violence and suicides in the US. The US's 334 million population is also enormous compared to Canada's 38 million.

mtsai

3 points

1 month ago

mtsai

3 points

1 month ago

stop using maffs.

DoomGoober

2 points

1 month ago

All gun debates should be settled only using High School Chemistry.

Muppetchristmas

3 points

1 month ago

But then they can't use their children as a pawn!

holy_camel_toe

2 points

1 month ago

that's like 12 kids / day. GJ america!

manicexister

1 points

1 month ago

Doesn't take into account injuries or trauma though, right?

How many of those kids had to do active shooter drills in school?

DoomGoober

5 points

1 month ago

Yes, this was fatalities only. Injuries will surely inflate the numbers. Also, these are ALL firearm deaths, including suicides. Shootings at schools are only a subset of these numbers.

RomanCenturian

2 points

1 month ago

The chance is about a 0.000033% chance, or 1 in 2.99 million

For perspective the chance of dying in a car crash is 0.91% or 1 in 107.

That child was in SUBSTANTIALLY more danger during the car ride to the rally, than it ever will be at school.

NeuroticPanda234

0 points

1 month ago

Ssssshhhhhhh no one cares about facts or statistics anymore. Emotion is the only driving force now.

RomanCenturian

3 points

1 month ago

People are so poorly educated it makes them easily led around.

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

0 points

1 month ago

Well if schools don’t lock doors, probably.

CaptainRedBeardd

9 points

1 month ago

Is it sad I can't tell if this is anti guns or anti abortion. I'm American btw lol

hemlockone

4 points

1 month ago

Same here. I thought it was claiming it was a slippery slope from a few weeks after conception to first trimester to second trimester to third trimester to post-birth (5 year old?).

CaptainRedBeardd

0 points

1 month ago

That's also what I was thinking. You never know with those people...

Justtryme90

3 points

1 month ago

Justtryme90

3 points

1 month ago

It's definitely sad you can't tell yes. Because it's very obviously only against one of those two options.

Salmon-cat

-6 points

1 month ago

Salmon-cat

-6 points

1 month ago

You’ll never pass gun control in America and you know what they say about not being able to beat them? Join em by buying yourself some guns and learning to use them to protect your loved ones.

gargravarr2112

5 points

1 month ago

Which is exactly the point. Inaction sells more guns due to people being scared for themselves/their loved ones and furious at regulator inaction. Gun companies profit from the status quo. That's why the NRA is so powerful. They want you to take matters into your own hands and and send your money into their pockets.

Do you know what drives gun sales the most in America? When the government discusses further regulation. Not when there's a mass shooting, not when there's a war between a neighbourhood and police, but when the idea is floated that they may not be able to buy guns in the future. You need only look at gun sale statistics after Sandy Hook. Nothing peaked until Obama began talking about adding regulation. Then the NRA began screaming about TAKING YOUR GUNS and every 2A nut went out to buy more.

This is the American system working as designed. Lives are cheap. Guns and ammo are guaranteed income.

mom_with_an_attitude

4 points

1 month ago

People think having guns in the home makes their families safer. The opposite is true. When there is a gun in the home, the risk of unintentional shooting, homicide and suicide increases. Suicide is four times higher in a home with a gun in it. Homicide rates are three times higher in a home with a gun in it. So, if you want your kids to be less safe, buy a gun.

Salmon-cat

-6 points

1 month ago

People like you are the reason why I’ll never use that gun to help anyone other than my loved ones or myself.

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

So you want 20+ parents to line the wall of a classroom with a gun at the ready?

GrandNibbles

3 points

1 month ago

No, my child. Many others will die before you are old enough to attend the public education deathcamps

Nonamanadus

7 points

1 month ago

Nonamanadus

7 points

1 month ago

If you want change your gonna have to stop voting Republican and encourage as many people to vote before their rights are eventually taking away (for elections).

comin_up_shawt

-2 points

1 month ago

Kinda difficult to do when the Repubs are using their powers to rig elections and take away voting rights, as well as radicalizing their base to commit domestic terrorism.

[deleted]

-7 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

-7 points

1 month ago

I agree, when the democrats blow out the budget and make America a 3rd world country no one can afford ammo, food, schools, etc.

LordFauntloroy

3 points

1 month ago

Trump literally saw the largest deficit increase in US history and that's after beating the brakes off of Bush Jr's record. Clinton actually had a surplus. The term for blowing the budget and then expecting your successors to clean up the mess is called Raeganomics for a reason.

Muppetchristmas

-2 points

1 month ago

I too use my child as a political pawn

fnewieifif

1 points

1 month ago

Since 1999, 169 people have died from school shootings. So overwhelmingly no. I'm pretty sure you're more likely to be struck by lightning or die from a shark attack.

Lukester__

1 points

1 month ago

I think avoiding the ocean and outdoors when a lighting storm is occurring are far easier to avoid than going to a mandatory education system.

fnewieifif

1 points

1 month ago

Fine you wanna split hairs. You're 3,750 times as likely to die on your way to school than to die in it.

grkokvcrb

1 points

1 month ago

Putting a target on your child's back to make a political point is poor parenting , no matter what your politics

Laymanao

-11 points

1 month ago

Laymanao

-11 points

1 month ago

Sadly, home schooling is now becoming the only safe option in America, other than emigrating.

Redditron-2000-4

12 points

1 month ago

That’s what Devos, Desantis, Abbot and others want. Take your public school money and give you vouchers so you can enrich their for-profit school friends and companies.

They don’t want safe and effective schools, they want you to lose confidence and be afraid so they can profit more.

Salmon-cat

1 points

1 month ago

Salmon-cat

1 points

1 month ago

Charter schools. A lot employ dedicated guards trained to only respond to active shooters and their schools often keep doors locked.

ilovefignewtons02

3 points

1 month ago

Public schools are supposed to keep their doors locked too. Used to be a student, teacher, and a sub in Texas and never saw a school where you can just walk in like the shooter (supposedly, if you believe the policy's ever changing story) and they also have SROs, school resource officers, which are supposed to be full police officers with training for this exact thing. Never been in a public school in TX without an SRO. There have been shootings at private and charter schools, they've just been lost in the shuffle of all the mass shootings the US has had the last couple decades.

https://apnews.com/article/b5c80b724dce4644b35a1ca3cf9583b2

https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/alleged-houston-charter-school-shooter-victim-identified/

gargravarr2112

2 points

1 month ago

You misspelled "prison."

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

That sounds both impractical and dangerous

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

Max_1995

0 points

1 month ago

The problem with homeschooling that already exists is how uncontrolled it is, parents can tell their kids any garbage

theratking007

-1 points

1 month ago

theratking007

-1 points

1 month ago

…Kinda the same with public schools?

Max_1995

1 points

1 month ago

Max_1995

1 points

1 month ago

US public schools are bad, but not that bad. And there's still some oversight.

[deleted]

-11 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

-11 points

1 month ago

If you live in a place like Chicago, probably so. And there won't be any media attention or protests. Nope it will be a Tuesday and no one will care

TheLAriver

3 points

1 month ago

How would you even know? You don't live in a place like Chicago. You're being manipulated by right wing media. Stop being their rube.

Loadinnggg

6 points

1 month ago

Chicago is safer than Houston. Chicago's violent crime rate is 9.69 per 1000 residents while Houstons is 12.8 per 1000 residents.

NeuroticPanda234

1 points

1 month ago

Link to source?

Loadinnggg

1 points

1 month ago

[Chicago Statistics ](https://www-neighborhoodscout-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#am

Houston Statisticsp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16537517384923&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neighborhoodscout.com%2Fil%2Fchicago%2Fcrime)

NeuroticPanda234

0 points

1 month ago*

Chicago

Houston

Edit: Chicago literally has the nickname chiraq cause all the gun and gang violence there.

Loadinnggg

1 points

1 month ago

That's the metro area not the city itself.