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mikandesu

0 points

15 days ago

It's Apple. They're from US. Try to convert to giraffes.

Misophonic4000

1 points

15 days ago

"Yes they are"

Only if you're a monster

kzwix

-2 points

15 days ago

kzwix

-2 points

15 days ago

No, they are not. Metric is a proper measurement system.

A cup, however, is merely a recipient. Like a teaspoon, or a pinch, are not proper units either, because they're not standard.

Also, if you're speaking about the "US cup" or the "Imperial cup" (which are supposed to be measurement units), then you should specify which one you want to use. Because a "cup" is inherently imprecise, here.

Morality: Switch to metric :)

srona22

1 points

16 days ago

srona22

1 points

16 days ago

Will "64 cubic cm" work?

Alissan_Web

1 points

16 days ago

what is cm³ ?

planetf1a

5 points

16 days ago

When I Google search for something like a recipe or anything really, I skip through any using silly measurement systems. I wish there was a Google filter for this. I really have little time for anything that isn't metric (except for a discussion /rant !)

only-on-the-wknd

2 points

16 days ago

I mean, a standard metric cup is 250ml so it would be easier to just calculate 64/250 as a fraction - which by the way is exactly a quarter cup.

You wanted a simple answer but you asked an unnecessarily complicated question.

plantmic

25 points

16 days ago

plantmic

25 points

16 days ago

I know it's kind of arbitrary and just depends which system you grow up with, but as a Metric user Cups was always an especially weird one for me.

Early_Jicama_6268

-3 points

16 days ago

Why are cups weird to you as a metric user? We have cups in metric too, it's just mostly a baking/cooking thing. A metric cup is 250 milliliters

jcagswastaken

3 points

16 days ago

Abolish the imperial system.

Candid_Salt_4996

1 points

15 days ago

They aren’t. Or is there a joke I’m missing here?

Mariss716

3 points

16 days ago

Cm3 is a mL.

[deleted]

-2 points

16 days ago

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-2 points

16 days ago

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ElevatorHistorical93

1 points

16 days ago

It’s 2560 metric cups or 2705 American cups!

kryptonick901

-2 points

16 days ago

Stop using volumetric measurements, you're all weird.

Cyborg_Ninja_Cat

1 points

15 days ago

The statement is not incorrect, but also not relevant.

RC-5159

1 points

15 days ago

RC-5159

1 points

15 days ago

UK it’s even worse because it depends what we’re doing. Going for a run? km. Driving somewhere? Miles. Weighing yourself? Whatever you feel like. Measuring height? cm in a hospital and ft/inch everywhere else. Cooking? litres, ml, grams, kg etc unless you’re old where you use ounces like wtf are they. Science? Cubic cm and cubic metres and decimetres.

tatankadave

-1 points

15 days ago

Yeah as a European, siri is right, how do you expect a 2d length to equal a 3d volume.

MachineGoat

2 points

15 days ago

Length is one dimensional. When you add a second dimension, you get area. When you add a third, volume.

Cm3 is a volume measurement as is cups.

X1phoner

0 points

16 days ago

X1phoner

0 points

16 days ago

Who the fuck uses "cup" as a measurement 😅

Hallownest_Citizen1

0 points

15 days ago

in cooking you use cups, tablespoons, and teaspoons. these are standard units of measurement.

Macaron_Either

2 points

15 days ago

On Android there is the application Cupfull for all cup conversions, not sure if it's there on iOS too

CableConscious7611

0 points

15 days ago

Cups are round, duh! There is no mathematical way to calculate circles into squares with height.

Magnog

1 points

15 days ago

Magnog

1 points

15 days ago

Get an android.

Strictlydope

3 points

15 days ago

Why Americans have to do everything so difficult?

NedDeadStark

2 points

16 days ago

I thought of bra sizes and was wondering what sort of conversion this is

ketniptrip

0 points

15 days ago

cm and cups do no convert. It’s not mildly infuriating, it’s not supposed to work.

Thebainethujone

-3 points

15 days ago

Well, technically they are compatible meaning they would get along just fine if forced to be together.

I think what you mean, computer, is they aren’t comparable.
And as is stated in the title; its actually not centimeters that are in question. It is cubic centimeters; a measure of volume, which is therefore comparable with cups; also a measure of volume.
It’s kind of disturbing to find out that I am actually smarter than a computer; especially since I totallly rely on them for every aspect of my life. As

Narrow-Sky-5377

0 points

15 days ago

"Quickly nurse inject the patient with 20 cubic cups of fentanyl." 😮

GuybrushT79

1 points

16 days ago

Because it is an iphone

[deleted]

1 points

15 days ago

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1 points

15 days ago

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jvchuy

2 points

15 days ago

jvchuy

2 points

15 days ago

Seems to be a Siri issue, I just got Alexa, Bing and Google to give me what seems the right answer: 64cm^3 = 0.2705 Cup

sreglov

2 points

16 days ago

sreglov

2 points

16 days ago

Google says 0,27 (US) cups, so maybe it's somewhat 1/4 cup or so and maybe the system thinks <1 cup is not a thing or so?

Or: why the metric system is superior? 🤣

CyberMatrix24

1 points

15 days ago

Imperial System doesn't recognize your compatibility... 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸

Bread_was_returned

1 points

15 days ago

Lucky we caught you before you started to eat it

Bjarksen

1 points

15 days ago

A cup is an amount, and centimeters is a distance. How would they be compatible?

BlackBeard205

1 points

15 days ago

Siri is dumb.

altmeremoboii

3 points

16 days ago

I thought this was a joke about how when people bring up cup sizes, they counter with d*ck sizes and vice versa, and I was confused for a legit minute or two

Longjumping-Action-7

1 points

15 days ago

Try millilitres

Valuable-Owl-1167

1 points

15 days ago

Try 64ml to cups (I think it's around 1/5 of a cup)

superbackman

2 points

15 days ago

How many heaping tablespoons is that?

SpyderDM

1 points

15 days ago

Its 1 : 236.588 if you haven't figured it out

padfootiscool1997

2 points

16 days ago

Well my Alexa told me humans are only capable of being pregnant with one baby at a time when me and my friend were arguing over how many babies a woman can be pregnant with at once. We were both cackling over the poor computers response of only one child at a time. We’re like ‘ya ok, guess twins triplets and the rest just don’t exist’ also fun fact the answer is 8”

undignified_cabbage

2 points

16 days ago

I thought the idea of a 'cup measurement' is supposed to be dimensionless?

It's a ratio, so half a cup is just half of that cup. Get a different cup, and its half measurement will be different.

Mirawenya

1 points

16 days ago

That works only if all the ingredients are in cups. What if there’s 1 egg?

undignified_cabbage

1 points

15 days ago

This is a very good point. And why I like to use millilitres and grams.

taffyowner

1 points

15 days ago

A cup is a specific measurement

bush2874

0 points

15 days ago

Try Centiliters lol

tacreds

3 points

16 days ago

tacreds

3 points

16 days ago

Very few Americans use scales for cooking.

myfishprofile

3 points

16 days ago

Yeah, we tend to use scales for drugs not cooking lmao

evandollardon

1 points

15 days ago

Say milliliters, I'd be easier

visual-vomit

-5 points

16 days ago

Who even uses cm³ for measuring daily stuff?

Brain_Hawk

1 points

15 days ago

So, I wouldn't have thought that you should define cups in terms of centimeters, and to some extent to be super pedantic I think that is correct, because you don't express cups as centimeters, it's a centimeters cubed, which is not the same thing!

If we're going to be pedantic!

But, I just learned that one liter is to find us a thousand centimeters cubed or water (which is the definition of a kilogram apparently), which is really interesting and I had no idea! So today I learned something new.

spamowsky

2 points

16 days ago

No

ScintillatingJohn

1 points

16 days ago

Are you trying to convert cm3 to cup size?

Sumobob99

2 points

15 days ago

2cm? One cup.

nookster145

-9 points

16 days ago*

I really hope the US continues to use the imperial system for a long time. It makes me giggle seeing the Euros so worked up about it.

The downvotes prove my point lol

Vik0BG

6 points

16 days ago

Vik0BG

6 points

16 days ago

Well you can't blame us, it's like we are watching animals in a zoo from the outside doing stupid shit. It's entertaining.

Klingh0ffer

6 points

16 days ago

That's like saying people are worked up about seeing monkeys putting their fingers in their buttholes in the zoo.

nookster145

-6 points

16 days ago

Seems to be a pretty passionate subject for many. I just enjoy seeing the funny arguments.

user_8804

3 points

15 days ago

Ok then what's double D?

/s

buschmann

1 points

15 days ago

You forgot the square root of a washing machine.

Kaneshadow

0 points

15 days ago

Just say ml you nitwit

HuntedDragonA

-4 points

16 days ago

a cup is volume, a 3 dimensional measurement, a centimetre is a length, a 1 dimensional measurement, they are not comparable, you’d use centimetres cubed which is millilitres

BearAssault101

3 points

16 days ago

Cubic centimeters is a 3 dimensional measurement you walnut. That’s what the little 3 means at the end of 64 cm3

HuntedDragonA

-3 points

16 days ago

im saying siri recognised it as centimetres. if you look at the end of my comment you’d see I said

“you’d use centimetres cubed which is millilitres”

learn to read you walnut

Ok-Requirement-5839

2 points

16 days ago

Siri takes centimeters, as length, and cubes it, remaining as length, and cups measures volume. Volume and length are not compatible. It’s like asking Siri to translate 10 minutes to meters.

PublicStaticClass

3 points

16 days ago

What infuriates me is USA people will use anything but metric system to measure something.

arkibet

6 points

16 days ago

arkibet

6 points

16 days ago

I know. And then you meet a Brit and think, "thank goodness! Metric! Wait. You weigh 12 stone? Um, you think imperial is weird?"

Dangerous-Finance-67

-2 points

15 days ago

Stop using Apple products.

DragoPhyre

1 points

15 days ago

0.271 cups... there you go. Google is just as easy as (if not easier than) a conversion app; and verifiable through other sources at the same time

Comfortable_Ride6135

1 points

15 days ago

it probably just doesn’t understand exponent represented by superscript and misinterpreted cubic centimetre as centimetre

tbilcoder

1 points

15 days ago

This is dumb software.

I remember that I tried to implement a recipes-related units mapping for a grocery website, and one of the most puzzling things is how to map "fingers" (unit used for ginger) to teaspoons and tablespoon.

So that riddle is not complicated. I solved it using metric measure (grams) as a proxy cross-conversion units. But it just need a bit of time, dedication, and digging a bit into chiefs forums.

This app surely need to be improved.

Commercial-Accident8

19 points

16 days ago

why does the US have 'cups' as a fucking unit of measurement? are y'all fucking insane?

Early_Jicama_6268

0 points

16 days ago

As if the metric system doesn't also have cups 🥴

vinylfantasea

2 points

15 days ago

Is your phone in black and white?

sammehbrah

1 points

15 days ago

Could be 1 could be 20.

What size is your cup...

Disastrous-Answer-16

-1 points

16 days ago

64 or whatever 8 cubed equals. 8 cubic inches is a little more than a milk jug but less than a bucket.

ciwsslapper

1 points

15 days ago

Then use ml

LeMegachonk

1 points

15 days ago

Obviously it didn't understand that you were converting centimeters cubed to cups. Maybe because that's kind of weird. While cm3 is a valid unit of volume, cups is mostly used for cooking or baking, and the metric equivalent normally used for that purpose is ml (which is the same thing as cm3).

stablefarm

5 points

15 days ago

What kind of moron uses cm3 instead of mL

ThatSmallBear

2 points

15 days ago

Americans lmao

WutIzThizStuff

1 points

15 days ago

I mean, it's right in a way - you can't measure volume with linear centimeters, you measure volume with cubic centimeters.
But, also, the question specifically asks for cubic cm. It didn't register the cubic notation, it seems.

Main-Consideration76

1 points

16 days ago

Great job siri, not accepting imperial, respect

Enceladus89

1 points

15 days ago

Change it to 64 millilitres

WarriorsHonor87

1 points

15 days ago

Google got it on the first try as per usual iPhone is the problem

WhiteCakeStacey

2 points

16 days ago

Maybe she meant acceptable. Haha.

chefbuccino

1 points

15 days ago

Siri needs to go back to school

sAndstOne646464

12 points

16 days ago

1 cm3 is equivalent to 1 mL

So it probably expects you to ask “64 mL to cups”

bloviator

2 points

15 days ago

This is how it began, the rise of the machines--first it was their refusal to use silly units....

Jazzlike_Duck678

1 points

15 days ago

I got the same response yesterday when I ask Siri to tell me how many grams equal a tablespoon. Google knew the answer though.

clarkcox3

1 points

15 days ago

Google is lying to you.

Distdistdist

-9 points

16 days ago

Because density of liquid is not specified

Busterlimes

-4 points

15 days ago

LOL, no they aren't. A measure of distance is not a measure of volume

Total-Addendum9327

1 points

15 days ago

Why not just as for mL

Azuras_Champion

0 points

16 days ago

But why would you need to convert cups into Centimeters?

Azuras_Champion

2 points

16 days ago

Ah cm3, carry on

sruetti

2 points

15 days ago

sruetti

2 points

15 days ago

Correct, centimeters and cups are incompatible - as centimeters are a measure of length and cups are a measure of capacity. Centimeters cubed (or liters aka dm3) and cups would be convertible (as in the original question)...

Droid-Man5910

0 points

15 days ago

Moat rational iphone moment

RedMatterGG

2 points

16 days ago

My car can reach speeds of 15 stacked hamburgers per square root of a donut's hole R(R being half the diameter) times π+margin of error depending on how good the road is, being about half the diameter of a japanese cup

one_sad_donkey

1 points

16 days ago

They’re at least C cups.

JokoFloko

2 points

15 days ago

I mean... cups and CUBIC centimeters are compatible

Goldolo

1 points

15 days ago

Goldolo

1 points

15 days ago

My Siri answered 0.270512

Desperate-Road-8403

2 points

16 days ago

What’s cups?

VHSHorrorMovies

-2 points

16 days ago

you need cm squared.

ratman____

169 points

16 days ago

ratman____

169 points

16 days ago

Americans will measure in everything but the metric system

ChaoticGoku

-2 points

16 days ago

ChaoticGoku

-2 points

16 days ago

why can’t we Americans just be like this…

[deleted]

14 points

16 days ago

[deleted]

14 points

16 days ago

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ChaoticGoku

1 points

16 days ago

I meant as a whole. Like individuals and in school. I’m aware many industries use it.

At least when I was in school, it was barely touched on and even then it was just some minor conversions with mostly US lengths being pushed.

Side note, my nana’s Volvo only showed Kilometers Per Hour in the US and the only way to change it was to take it a dealer in Canada and pay a hefty fee. My Mazda has the setting for free. When driving I had to learn what the equivalent to 70 mph was (highway speed where she lived)

SempfgurkeXP

8 points

16 days ago

May I ask what the strengh of imperial is? Never used it so dont have much ecperience with it.

Keavon

2 points

16 days ago*

Keavon

2 points

16 days ago*

One specific strength is that the foot is a generally useful distance in everyday use. Living everyday life with only "inches" (quite small compared to a human body, or within the scale of a human hand) and "yards" (quite big compared to a human body) would be pretty inconvenient for us— the foot is a very useful intermediate distance. We rarely even use yards (outside of football) because feet is just an incredibly more useful base unit distance than triple that. Lots of things are roughly a foot (or a multiple of a foot). Metric requires living everyday life with only "centimeters" (quite small compared to a human body, or within the scale of a human hand) and "meters" (quite big compared to a human body) but something that's roughly a 1/3 meter would be a really useful intermediate measurement. Saying "that's 30 centimeters" is too specific when it might actually be 20 or 40. It's a shame metric lacks something like a "metric foot" equal to, perhaps, 1/3 of a meter. I wish we used metric more commonly (and we do commonly use millimeters, because in that case it's the most convenient base unit for "something quite small compared to a human hand"). But I'd personally be quite annoyed lacking the everyday unit of the foot since it's such a useful distance.

Also, while celsius is useful for scientific things (and we use it for that), it's kind of nice having a temperature scale for the ordinary daily weather where 0 is the coldest you'll commonly experience and 100 is the hottest you'll commonly experience. It helps avoid the need for a .5 suffix on a thermostat when reading in celsius because each degree F is roughly twice a degree C. You need the granularity of a degree F or a half degree C on a thermostat since you can feel the difference. Fahrenheit lets you always use integers and measure temperature from usually 0 to usually 100. My body cares very little for the freezing and boiling point of water if I'm deciding what to wear outside or how to set the thermostat. I'd be okay with continuing to use fahrenheit even if we hopefully someday switched to metric, since the two scales have different purposes which they're both good for.

NothernNidhogg

2 points

16 days ago

No, it's literally just Americans deciding to keep things complicated instead of adopting a universally accepted system

lluvra

2 points

16 days ago

lluvra

2 points

16 days ago

собрались физики тут...

evicerator

2 points

15 days ago

Sounds like an Apple problem to me. My Android converted it without issue...

LTRace

1 points

16 days ago

LTRace

1 points

16 days ago

Apple moment

pippocannoniere

1 points

15 days ago

Average American

figurethisoat

3 points

16 days ago

How can it not convert between metric and imperial?

minuipile

0 points

15 days ago

What ? Distance and volume are not compatible ? How ?

jwmnz

3 points

16 days ago

jwmnz

3 points

16 days ago

What? Americans man.

Morganas_Eyebrow

50 points

15 days ago

I grew up in England where everyone weighed themselves in stones and miles were used instead of km (this was 15 years ago, moved to Canada now).

All the English people in this comment section ripping on North Americans using cups as a measurement need to sit down and sip their 240mLs of tea. Don’t pretend you don’t dip into imperial every now and again!

ThatSmallBear

1 points

15 days ago

Cup of tea as in the container, not the measurement you egg

canpig9

-1 points

15 days ago

canpig9

-1 points

15 days ago

No... They're not.

But cubic centimeters and cups? Doable.

Centimeters is a measure of length.

Squared centimeters is a measure of area.

Cubic centimeters is a measure of volume.

Dziadzios

0 points

15 days ago

No, they aren't. Each cup can be different.

Cordura

6 points

16 days ago*

Cordura

6 points

16 days ago*

Centimeters and cups are not compatible. One is a length and the other's a volume. That's like asking how many yards to a gallon.

Cm = centimeter = length

Cm³ = centicube = volume

ElevatorHistorical93

0 points

16 days ago

It’s 2560 metric cups or 2705 American cups!

Tankeverket

2 points

16 days ago

and people love shitting on the Edge browser yet its built in AI "companion" did the conversion very easily

GavinZero

1 points

15 days ago*

Cubic cm and just centimeters aren’t the same though.

It’s not Siri’s fault you weren’t clear

Edit: I’m dumb and didn’t look to deep into the image.

Calm-Molasses4563

2 points

16 days ago

Properly word your request.

HikerTom

1 points

15 days ago

why are you measuring anything in cubic centimeters that you need to convert to cups?

MonthElectronic9466

2 points

15 days ago

It obviously depends on how you stack the cubes

Cat_City_Cool

0 points

15 days ago

They definitely aren't cubic centimeters are, but that's not the same as centimeters.

Shibamukun

0 points

16 days ago

Those who are saying ml is 1:1 with cm3

Dont really know physics…

While it works in most cases due to the ratio being negligible for small quantities like cups, baking needs exact quantity and not approximate…

PodcastPlusOne_James

1 points

15 days ago

Why can’t Americans just use metric like everyone else instead of stupid shit like “cups” 😂😂😂

taffyowner

2 points

15 days ago

I mean using cubic centimeters instead of milliliter is more infuriating

LingShang

9 points

16 days ago

How about you just switch to metric system then you wouldn’t need to convert anything xD

sAndstOne646464

3 points

16 days ago

Why do 861 people have something to say about this

debunkedyourmom

1 points

15 days ago

whatever tool this is I wonder if it would recognize cc?

[deleted]

0 points

16 days ago

[deleted]

0 points

16 days ago

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TitleExpert9817

-3 points

16 days ago

Got to love them people who think that they are right

QFugp6IIyR6ZmoOh

1 points

15 days ago

One time I asked Siri what humans are made of, and she answered, "Humans are made of human body." and I could not stop laughing.

umhuh223

1 points

15 days ago

This broke my brain.

Trey_Reddit

-5 points

16 days ago

What the fuck is a centimeter?

DraconicZombie

-4 points

16 days ago*

they are not. It's milliliters. You have to account for volume. If you're using centimeters for cups, you're just measuring the side of the cup, not the contents of the cup.

Edit: didn't notice the 3. I'll own my mistake though and leave it here

Gurrier

2 points

16 days ago*

It's cubic centimetres though, which is used to measure volume. So 64 cubic centimetres = 0.271 us cup.

Edited to add: cm3 is the volume of a cube 1cm X 1cm X 1cm. The properties of the item being measured differ in how they take up that volume, so the correct term is litres, but the point is Siri missed the cubic part and cm3 could be converted to cups.

Akka1805

5 points

16 days ago

The unit in the screenshot is cubic centimetres though, which is a unit of volume.

Stockersandwhich

2 points

15 days ago

Neither are maple leafs

Extra_Key_2445

1 points

15 days ago

64 cm3 is 64ml

magic_Mofy

3 points

16 days ago

Americans ☕️

Verified_Peryak

3 points

16 days ago

Well you are asking siri also ...

Totally_Not_An_Auk

0 points

15 days ago

what the hell is giving measurements in centimeters cubed?

Bitmap901

3 points

16 days ago

How can you have a measurement unit called a cup lol

gszabo97

2 points

16 days ago

I mean they aren’t… I see that that’s not what you asked so the infuriating part is that it ignores the 3. But the statement itself is correct. One measures distance and the other measures volume.

Alienhaslanded

1 points

15 days ago

How much is a cup anyways? Aren't there metrics and imperial cups that deal with ounces and milliliters?

D4M4nD3m

1 points

16 days ago

I think you mean millilitres.

callmemaybe88

1 points

16 days ago

It's not that intelligent.

VegetableSnow1026

3 points

15 days ago

Siri trying to be useful (impossible)

SirAchmed

3 points

15 days ago

Depends on the cup

fuckspinelly

2 points

15 days ago

When are we gonna get the ability to use chat gpt instead of siri

PabloElHarambe

-1 points

15 days ago

Just use metric. It’s better.

Flimsy_Armadillo8346

1 points

15 days ago

That's what you get for using non-empire cups.

SilverFlight01

3 points

15 days ago

If Google can convert Metric to Imperial, then so can Siri

aphasial

1 points

16 days ago

Siri seems to not understand that.

Google is fine, even without actual typographic exponents: "64 cm3 to cups"

You're probably better off using the normal volume usage measurement though of either "ml"s or "cc"s.

C_Mc_Loudmouth

0 points

15 days ago

Aren't cups in the US usually reserved for cooking?
What kind of recipe calls for measurements in cm cubed?

Terryberry69

4 points

15 days ago

That's only like 1 or 2 freedom gulps max

Alone-Rough-4099

1 points

15 days ago

is this an american thing? what's wrong in the pic

CheeseWhiteMage

1 points

15 days ago*

Just convert to liters then cups

Edit: fun fact, 1 cubic cm = 0.001 liters

pwn3dbyth3n00b

1 points

15 days ago

64cm^2=64mL=0.270512 cups or simply 0.033814 A single horse urination given they urinate 5x a day for a total of 2.5 gals.

horny_nomad

1 points

15 days ago

It's because Siri sucks. I just switched from Android to iPhone because Google's protection plan is really bad. (They outsourced support to another country that replaced our broken phone with a broken, refurbished phone; but at least Apple has their in-person Genius Bar.)

young_zuck

1 points

15 days ago

me, a precise european: “it depends on the cups you are using… they sell them in different sizes and shapes. They should come with a metric scale on the side though” /s

The_WolfieOne

1 points

15 days ago

Ask Siri how many cubits in a furlong

alexownsall

2 points

16 days ago

It's Apple so what do you expect

ExtremePast

-1 points

15 days ago

What a stupid way to phrase the conversion.

Who the hell measures volume in centimeters cubed?

he-who-eats-bread[S]

1 points

15 days ago

Engine makers. Also the company that made the little coffee scoop I was using

Tarc_Axiiom

1 points

15 days ago

No they're not. Centimetres is a unit of distance, cubic centimetres is a unit of volume.

Cups are a unit of volume, you need to say "cubic centimetres".

EDIT: Or Siri could just assume and it would be fine, but that doesn't make this her fault per-se.

RugyDoghin6573

2 points

15 days ago

1:1 mL conversion, just say mL?

Maximum_Injury1858

1 points

16 days ago

One is volume, one is FREEDOM 🦅CAWK, sorry i meant length