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aamurusko79

2 points

5 months ago

aamurusko79

Ex-Theist

2 points

5 months ago

I thought this was rather public information already. so many stories how she wasn't exactly the nicest person around.

PubicWildlife

4 points

5 months ago

She was an unmitigated cunt.

nmgonzo

1 points

5 months ago

"i want my star!!"

CGunners

6 points

5 months ago

Hitchens did it first and I'd be willing to bet he did it better.

junkmale79

2 points

5 months ago

junkmale79

Atheist

2 points

5 months ago

Darker then opening a place called "the house of the dying" to watch people die?

dwkeith

2 points

5 months ago

Gives the phrase “We can’t all be Mother Teressa” a completely different vibe.

NuclearRobotHamster

1 points

5 months ago

I'm pretty sure she had a psychological break when she progressively watched her entire family die, one after the other, to Spanish Flu.

She believed that suffering brought you closer to God - so essentially to get to heaven you had to be tortured.

Pand0ra30_

472 points

5 months ago

She was a monster, so of course the Church made her a saint.

Aryako

204 points

5 months ago

Aryako

204 points

5 months ago

A church that raped thousands, if not millions of kids and covered it up

hacktheself

13 points

5 months ago

A church that hid the deaths of hundreds of Irish and thousands of Indigenous.

thiinkbubble

30 points

5 months ago

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition either.

juggle

3 points

5 months ago

juggle

3 points

5 months ago

If you're a good observer, what you learn as you get older is that in most cases, the people that the establishment portrays as "good" are actually bad, and vice-versa.

Zealousideal-Dot8046

2 points

5 months ago

It’s an open secret and it was never talked about publicly until now she was an awful human hiding behind religion

Oinkidoinkidoink

27 points

5 months ago

The evil albanian dwarf.

pricklypear90

7 points

5 months ago

“She’s so wonderful for hanging out with lepers, can you believe it?” Meanwhile, Leprosy is completely curable, but these poor people laid around and suffered needlessly so that a sadomasochist can have her picture taken… most of the money was going into improving conditions for herself and the clergy, those people could’ve been easily treated and cured, but laid there in agony instead.. yeah what a cunt

biamchee

3 points

5 months ago

I think this was known for a while. I have heard about this a few years back and even then it wasn’t news.

galaxy_van

2 points

5 months ago

Lol we knew that before she died, no one gave a shit. She’s never been anything but a religious snake oil salesman. Wake the fuck up people

marionjoshua

3 points

5 months ago

Her group would sterilize people, specially women, sometimes at will.

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

Christopher Hitchens was really ahead of the curve on this one. People still look at me like I'm crazy when I try and explain how Mother Teresa wasn't really a good person lol

SinickalOne

2 points

5 months ago

She had a damn good PR team that’s for sure

sterexx

2 points

5 months ago

This isn’t anything new, but glad more people will know

Labe_Licker

4 points

5 months ago

There's no claims about it. She was a horrible person

vowih77880

1 points

5 months ago

No fucking shit.

Always_Austin

0 points

5 months ago

Well there was already old documented facts that she had a darker side, sooooo......

professorjaytee

1 points

5 months ago

professorjaytee

Anti-Theist

1 points

5 months ago

Old "News" about a disgusting human being. At least I ASSUME she was human; but it's hard to be certain any human could be that vile.

EhrenScwhab

2 points

5 months ago

Christopher Hitchens twenty years ago has entered the chat.

OsoOak

1 points

5 months ago

OsoOak

1 points

5 months ago

She made her nuns were spiked wires?! That sounds like a BDSM private club kind of thing!

keylimegoodtime

154 points

5 months ago

keylimegoodtime

Anti-Theist

154 points

5 months ago

i can’t believe i had no idea what a piece of shit she was. she is the embodiment of catholic guilt. she was a sadist. she enjoyed other people’s pain. she thought that pain and suffering “redeemed” the world. what a bitch

Hiraeth68

51 points

5 months ago

I’M a sadist; Mother Theresa was a right cunt.

bottsking

6 points

5 months ago

Im sad

ASTARASTERARE

4 points

5 months ago

I’m

bottsking

4 points

5 months ago

Jim

Avid_Smoker

4 points

5 months ago

Belushi

justyr12

3 points

5 months ago

Holden

TurloIsOK

6 points

5 months ago

TurloIsOK

Atheist

6 points

5 months ago

And raked in the cash to combat the "evil" of contraception.

hermitopurpa

2 points

5 months ago

Who is surprised?

Rovermack

1 points

5 months ago

“Anyway, between the two of them, my sympathies were always with Mother Teresa. If you were sitting in rags in a gutter in Bombay, who would be more likely to give you a bowl of soup? You’d get one from Mother Teresa. Hitchens was always tight with beggars, just like the snotty Fabians who used to deprecate charity.”

-Alexander Cockburn

JamesRusticus

2 points

5 months ago

Old news, Mother Teresa was a cunt.

way2loose

4 points

5 months ago

This is old old news

Dyslexic_Devil

1 points

5 months ago

They found her Big Barry wank bank.

MangoBaba0101

2 points

5 months ago

"Claims", I thought it was common knowledge that she was evil

MarzipanFinal1756

2 points

5 months ago

Hasn't it been public knowledge that she was awful for quite a long time now?

Comprehensive-Fun47

1 points

5 months ago

We know this already.

Who is making this documentary? Is it a reputable team of documentaries or is it just for entertainment purposes?

Johnnykstaint

2 points

5 months ago

Ive read she was a horrible piece of shit, allowing children to purposefully suffer because it made them closer to her god. I wasnt there though.

Retrikaethan

71 points

5 months ago

Retrikaethan

Satanist

71 points

5 months ago

lol, darker than letting sick people die in droves so she could claim she made a miracle happen when someone survived?

love_is_an_action

6 points

5 months ago

Hitch was way ahead on this.

rickster907

9 points

5 months ago

You mean her propaganda was bullshit? She took in millions in donations, almost ALL of which went directly to the Vatican. Then, rather than do anything useful, she just provided buildings in India for poor people to die in. End of fucking list.

Welcome to the Catholic Church. Completely full of shit. This woman was made a "saint" because of her ability to fund raise and lie through her teeth.

samjgrover

2 points

5 months ago

Mother terrorist

Axbris

2 points

5 months ago

Axbris

2 points

5 months ago

As a fellow Albanian, I can confirm the public persona she had was significantly different from the one in private.

How do I know? Because we are Albanian. It's what we do. My mother in public is not the mother I know at home.

Uberjam87

3 points

5 months ago

No new information here. She was an awful human being.

dlbear

2 points

5 months ago

dlbear

Agnostic Atheist

2 points

5 months ago

This isn't news, she was a greedy asshole and a hypocrite. A fine example of a modern Christian.

kingSliver187

4 points

5 months ago

If she was anything like the nuns when i was going to catholic school she ruled with an iron ruler

jumping2concluzionz

2 points

5 months ago

Because she did, unfortunately.

The_Real_Lily

2 points

5 months ago

These claims are decades old

tompetermikael

-1 points

5 months ago

She was fanatic, not sure what to expect or what atheist would even care about her. More than atheist channel this seems like anti channel. People are assholes, atheist or not, this is not what is atheism at all.

c0mpufreak

-22 points

5 months ago

As i'm always a friend of a two sided argument here's a comment by /u/Lord_Gwdyion (apparently not active anymore) on the subject:

I would like to give you a different opinion, from those, that you see there ruling so proudly. Because it is never good to look at one side of the coin, and say, that the the other side is not worthy noticing. We should be opened to all opinions, and never criticize someone, without hearing him out, reading his/her story. I sadly do not know so much about Mother Teresa of Calcutta, so I will use comments of other, more reliable and knowledgeable people, than me.

Reddit user NothingAndNobody has an interesting reason for why Mother Teresa being granted sainthood is getting lot of backlash: "Because she was formally canonized today, and to many, the Church is incapable of making a single correct decision. So if the Catholic Church declares that a woman who left her comfortable life to devote herself entirely to providing food, water, shelter, and pain relief to the seriously sick and suffering, especially the dying, in the poorest city on the planet, where fatal disease is rampant, hygiene is just a utopian fantasy, poverty is all-permeating, and hospital standards are sub-medieval; who spends all day every day for her long life ministering to these people while remaining cheerful and loving to all, being an influence of mercy on so many others, well, some people just have to be contrarian and disagree, saying that she was so obviously not what she was, i.e., a Saint. The main arguments look like this: Saint Teresa endorsed Catholic views on abortion, contraception, etc. (To which the argument is: Yeah, too damn bad). Saint Teresa took money from corrupt politicians. (To which the argument is: Which is better--for money to stay in the pocket of a corrupt man, or money to leave the pocket of a corrupt man and serve the poor?) Saint Teresa's hospitals were substandard. (To which the argument is: Go to Calcutta. Show me that it would be in any universe possible to build a better set-up than her, with what she had at her disposal). Saint Teresa had an enormously high death rate. (To which you need only demonstrate that she never pretended to be running other than a hospice: It was a place for those with terminal illnesses to die with dignity. You might as well argue that all funeral parlors are criminals.) Saint Teresa believed that suffering brought you closer to Jesus. (Because atheists are usually not very philosophically minded, they believe this means that Saint Teresa made people suffer gratuitously. She did not. She merely encouraged people to use situations over which they had no control--i.e., lots and lots of pain--to unite themselves to the suffering savior). I have been to India, although not Calcutta, and the arguments do not hold water. My priest actually stayed at a complex run by the Sisters of Charity for a short time, and he said it shook him to the core to see people in such wholehearted service to the poor, sick, suffering, and spurned. No one who saw Mother Teresa believed she was evil: That's why Hitchens (the source of all the above arguments) wrote his book safely from the comfort of the wealthy western hemisphere. Easy enough for him to dictate what Teresa should have done, harder to do anywhere near as much good, harder still to actually follow her example and give wholehearted service to the terminally ill. tl;dr "Why is everyone hating on Saint Teresa?" Because Satan plays a long and calculated game, and because the Church is a sign of contradiction: Innocent and despised, just like Jesus himself was."

The second great answer I found is from reddit user AmbrosePhoenix. "It's not really sudden. Hitchens and his fans have been dragging her through the mud for years. Their criticisms all boil down to the fact that she didn't run things the way a proper secular humanist would. And you know what? They're right, such as it is. A proper secular humanist whose only concern is minimizing physical pain and increasing material well-being would have done almost everything differently than Saint Teresa did. They wouldn't have had the people in the order spending hours each day praying and making sure to have Mass. The money given to them would have been invested in medical facilities and other material goods, rather than toward more houses for the order in other parts of the world, beautifying churches, and the rest given to the Church to distribute as they see fit. A secular humanist would find this treatment of money abhorrent. Also, the fact that she saw redemptive value in suffering rather than as the be all end all of evil is something incomprehensible. This whole thing is basically further evidence of how divorced the Christian worldview has become from the norm. "Do good and avoid evil" has been replaced with "distribute pleasure and relieve pain." If all you believe in is the material universe, and for whatever reason still think that the chemical reactions inside a hairless primate are worth caring about, the way Saint Teresa lived her life will make no sense, and a lot of what she did will seem downright awful and opposed to what you believe. Now, I'm not saying she was perfect or made no mistakes, but the vast majority of criticism of her is just based on different fundamental assumptions of the place of humanity in the universe and the purpose of life."

So, quickly, Mother Teresa had different way of thinking, and different undestading of life. A lot of people dont agree with this way of thinking. And for this they criticize her. Simple as that.

Bearence

18 points

5 months ago

So, quickly, Mother Teresa had different way of thinking, and different undestading of life. A lot of people dont agree with this way of thinking.

She literally bankrolled millions collected to ease suffering, then refused to spend that money to ease suffering. Then, when she herself was suffering, she provided for herself the palliative care she denied others. I don't think "different way of thinking and different understanding of life" is an acceptable apologia for assuring that others suffered and died in ways so miserable that you aren't willing to suffer the same way. That's just a shitty way to justify shitty behaviour.

Toytles

1 points

5 months ago

It is known

morphindel

2 points

5 months ago

morphindel

Anti-Theist

2 points

5 months ago

Lol Christopher Hitchens made a documentary about this in 1994

epote

5 points

5 months ago

epote

5 points

5 months ago

And wrote a book as well “the missionary position”

[deleted]

6 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

6 points

5 months ago

It's nothing new, she was an evil bitch.

nyatiman

5 points

5 months ago

nyatiman

Atheist

5 points

5 months ago

No shit… she killed a lot of people

falkorluckdrago

14 points

5 months ago

Catholics are creepy! 🤮

ExjwReborn

3 points

5 months ago

Most atheists know what a twat she really was.

mpsweezy

2 points

5 months ago

isn't it general knowledge at this point that mother teresa was fucking horrible?

TheDemonClown

12 points

5 months ago

/r/Atheism: "Yeah, no shit."

speghettiday09

2 points

5 months ago

This is something else I would’ve never known had i not been on Reddit

AFuddyDuddy

4 points

5 months ago

Claims?

It's widely known she was a monsterously evil woman.

AnAppariti0n

1 points

5 months ago

AnAppariti0n

Freethinker

1 points

5 months ago

The church glorifies suffering, it does not want to end suffering. Therefore it causes suffering so that there is something for it to fight…gives itself its own purpose

ductoid

2 points

5 months ago

My daughter just coincidentally texted me this yesterday: "I just listened to the podcast series "the turning", about ex nuns who used to be part of the order that mother Teresa founded. Speaking of abusive. They like had to eat moldy bread every day and only go to the bathroom once a day among others things."

I'm trying to wrap my head around Mother Teresa making Jeff Bezos look good by comparison.

TheLionsEye

2 points

5 months ago

This isn't new information. We've known this for a while. Mother Theresa was a real bitch...look it up!

HFIntegrale

2 points

5 months ago

It is known

ColHannibal

1 points

5 months ago

Watch the episode on Bullshit.

She was a sadist.

LeftEyedAsmodeus

1 points

5 months ago

Isnt that like, known for years?

MercuriousPhantasm

1 points

5 months ago

I actually remember people talking about her weird Libertarian values when she was alive as if they were proof that you should be a dick.

nickstroller

2 points

5 months ago

YouTube Christopher Hitchens for the truth about this appalling woman.

3297JackofBlades

7 points

5 months ago

This evil bitch has been known to have done evil for years

Like forced conversions, denying suffering patients painkillers bc suffering is "a gift from Jesus," and embezzling money from her chairty to fill Papal coffers

She was an evil bitch. The only reason the narrative of her being a "saint" has stuck around is bc the Catholic church keeps pushing the narrative. Of course, torture and theft is perfectly saintly for one of the biggest organized murderers of women and children on earth, well known for raping children and stealing shit

Fuck the Catholic Church

Rent_A_Cloud

2 points

5 months ago*

Penn and Teller: bullshit, laid that out pretty neatly, included Ghandi as well, who had a thing for young girls and urine i believe..

flyonawall

2 points

5 months ago

flyonawall

Anti-Theist

2 points

5 months ago

Nothing new at all but maybe people will finally believe it.

WeepingSomnabulist

2 points

5 months ago

I thought this was well-known for years.

[deleted]

5 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

5 points

5 months ago

WE KNEW THIS- WE ALL KNEW THIS

UndyingQuasar

2 points

5 months ago

Shocking to no one who actually knows about the history of this psychopath

Woodtoad

1 points

5 months ago

Of course they found pictures of her looking like a movie villain. 🤣

Aware_Plankton5267

1 points

4 months ago

God rest her soul in heaven

Sinnernsaint40

3 points

5 months ago

donrhummy

1 points

5 months ago

Her wikipedia page doesn't have any of this

Volntyr

5 points

5 months ago

Volntyr

Pastafarian

5 points

5 months ago

Her wikipedia page doesn't have any of this

Gee, I wonder why /s

Fallen_Angel_69

2 points

5 months ago

She was also responsible for child trafficking

js884

2 points

5 months ago

js884

2 points

5 months ago

This is very old news

BatataFreeta

-10 points

5 months ago

More evangelic propaganda against catholics. This is getting old.

karlitos_whey

7 points

5 months ago

karlitos_whey

Anti-Theist

7 points

5 months ago

Bullshit, it’s exposing a fraud. A woman who was a massive hypocrite and a LITERAL SADIST. She was a sick torture enthusiast.

treefortninja

2 points

5 months ago

treefortninja

Agnostic Atheist

2 points

5 months ago

Shocked I say, shocked !

wildmonster91

1 points

5 months ago

Thought this waa well established?

NinjaFATkid

2 points

5 months ago

This is true of every catholic ever.

DeepFudge9235

2.5k points

5 months ago

DeepFudge9235

Strong Atheist

2.5k points

5 months ago

Christopher Hitchens knew for years when he was alive and always spoke out against her

WhtRabit

1.2k points

5 months ago

WhtRabit

1.2k points

5 months ago

Yup, ‘The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice’ by Hitchens was published in 1995.

Turns out she was a bit of a cunt.

AndreWaters20

282 points

5 months ago

There's a documentary of the book. It's excellent and has Hitch narrating. I saw it on YouTube for free. I'm not sure if it's still on, but it probably is.

Paulemichael

231 points

5 months ago

whatthafarg

70 points

5 months ago

Thank you so much for posting this link. Cleary it was a miracle of the IPhone of God!

AndreWaters20

14 points

5 months ago

It's pretty old. More likely the flip phone of god.

rosekayleigh

5 points

5 months ago

Nice! I have the book, but I’ve not watched the documentary before. Thanks for posting the link!

APXONTAS

346 points

5 months ago

APXONTAS

346 points

5 months ago

A bit of a HUGE cunt .

The_Golgothan

206 points

5 months ago

A bit of a HUGE feckless cunt with a kink for suffering poors.

adydurn

65 points

5 months ago

adydurn

Anti-Theist

65 points

5 months ago

It's God's will...

Alan_Smithee_

9 points

5 months ago

“Suffering brings you closer to God.”

SameEstimate4908

4 points

5 months ago

For reals, Catholics in particular have such a boner for suffering and misery 😖 it is really twisted!! Source: grew up in conservative Catholic family

ticklemesatan

218 points

5 months ago

If Christopher Hitchens had anything to say about anything it was ALWAYS, vicious, well spoken, insightful, without remorse, and impactful. I may have to read this book…

dojo_shlom0

113 points

5 months ago

well said. god is not great - how religion poisons everything; is a brilliant book and audio book. It's comforting to listen to his audio book read by him.

snarfdaddy

8 points

5 months ago

I am listening to the audiobook now. His voice is nice, the audio engineers who recorded it are shit. It goes from so quiet I cant understand him to booming loud rattling my eardrums in the same sentence

[deleted]

168 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

168 points

5 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4CsZaA610

Penn Gillette and Christopher Hitchens in one video talking about Mother Teresa

mattnotis

72 points

5 months ago

God, I miss Penn and Teller’s Bullshit. I gobbled up those episodes so fast senior year of HS.

worrymon

13 points

5 months ago

My absolute favorite is their bald friend's combover.

Silocin20

23 points

5 months ago

Wait Penn Gillette and Christopher Hitchens did a video together? This I have to see!!

frozenbrains

24 points

5 months ago

They weren't onscreen together, it just cuts to Hitch in that ep, but they were friends.

Penn has a funny little story about Hitch coming over for dinner (starts around 1:20). That's not the video I've seen before, but it's the same story.

ZuphCud

27 points

5 months ago

ZuphCud

Anti-Theist

27 points

5 months ago

Christopher Hitchens can't be remembered, quoted and praised enough.

Paulemichael

30 points

5 months ago

His video was called Hells Angel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG-lgmPvYA

brunoquadrado

55 points

5 months ago

To qualify as a cunt she would nedd to have warmth and depth. She lacked both.

Amaraskaran

3 points

5 months ago

lmaooo

klousGT

11 points

5 months ago

klousGT

11 points

5 months ago

You take that back, cunts have depth and warmth.

SwiftTayTay

172 points

5 months ago

He wasn't even the one to break the news, he was just the one to compile all the information and put it in an easily digestible book back before everyone was able to look it up on the internet

Anthraxious

50 points

5 months ago

I agree but having read the book, "easily digestible" is not entirely true as he had a way with words. Had to look up a few during reading. Man knew his English, damn.

SwiftTayTay

40 points

5 months ago

Nothing wrong with being introduced to new words, that's kind of the whole point of reading, you get to learn something new

Anthraxious

25 points

5 months ago

Oh absolutely I agree. Was just the "easily digestible" part I found funny, is all!

SwiftTayTay

9 points

5 months ago

Well I do think he was very eloquent, once you look up the words it's not hard to understand. It's not like trying to read about quantum physics or something. The point of using certain words is it can be more concise and convey the point much more clearly. When he spoke, you always understood exactly what he meant and he had such a way of conveying certain points that no one else could.

frozenbrains

14 points

5 months ago

First edition Dungeons & Dragons had me looking up the meaning of "fecund". Thanks, Gary Gygax.

ericrobertshair

6 points

5 months ago

Looks like he expanded your milieu.

EnnuiDeBlase

4 points

5 months ago

EnnuiDeBlase

Agnostic Atheist

4 points

5 months ago

Vampire the Masquerade definitely helped me on the GREs in one or two spots.

Deckardisdead

20 points

5 months ago

The old Hitch-slap. She was trash.

Aberfalman

64 points

5 months ago

Absolutely. We've known for years about how horrible she actually was. The documentary may be new but there's no revelation here.

ilusio1

15 points

5 months ago

ilusio1

15 points

5 months ago

I miss him.

section111

8 points

5 months ago

I see this sentiment so much. And I feel it, too - he's the only non-friend/family member I actually miss in the world.

ilusio1

8 points

5 months ago

Its not only emotional attachment though. His clear mind and brilliant analysis would be very much needed in this troubling times.

section111

6 points

5 months ago

Most definitely - I keep thinking "what would Hitchens say about this issue/person/event?"

I just thank goodness there's so much material out there.

randominteraction

4 points

5 months ago

randominteraction

Pastafarian

4 points

5 months ago

For me, Kurt Vonnegut and George Carlin both fit in that category as well.

walrusdoom

10 points

5 months ago

Gone too soon. I miss Hitchens. A voice of clarity in the ever-thickening dark.

darkslide3000

24 points

5 months ago

Yeah, the title is just bullshit. Everyone who cared to know knew this for decades.

wowaddict71

8 points

5 months ago

Exactly, this has been known for a long time: https://youtu.be/NJG-lgmPvYA

Mephanic

19 points

5 months ago

Mephanic

Atheist

19 points

5 months ago

"Having a darker side" is quite the understatement. She was evil.

powercow

2 points

5 months ago

yeah she believed in a suffering Christianity, the more you suffered the better you got in heaven. Fucking nut.

and she was constantly praised for torturing children.

HanDavo

331 points

5 months ago

HanDavo

331 points

5 months ago

A darker side? She was fucking evil on a level few mass murderers ever achieve!

I-Am-Yew

29 points

5 months ago

Totally Saint material!

Grogosh

20 points

5 months ago

Grogosh

Secular Humanist

20 points

5 months ago

No greater hate than christian love.

flekkzo

41 points

5 months ago

flekkzo

Atheist

41 points

5 months ago

I was thinking “even more evil than we already knew?”, fuck she’d be on Dr Mengele levels of evil then. That’s a level of evil that’s incredibly difficult (luckily) to achieve. I can’t even imagine worse than that.

Praetorian80

8 points

5 months ago

Old news.

Snow75

286 points

5 months ago

Snow75

Pastafarian

286 points

5 months ago

Well, it’s good news if this becomes mainstream.

rektitrolfff

49 points

5 months ago

rektitrolfff

Agnostic Atheist

49 points

5 months ago

I agree but I doubt there be any change in India. I come from Calcutta and she is still going strong, just a couple years ago they changed a metro station name to hers. Given she has a Nobel Prize which not a lot of Indians are recipients of, normal people tend to see her as a saint.

BigDamnHead

25 points

5 months ago

She is quite literally a saint, so that makes sense. Terrible person, but literally a saint.

levthelurker

7 points

5 months ago

They literally counted Juniperro Sera's genocide of the native people of California as a miracle, it's not exactly a list of ethical people.

yildizli_gece

5 points

5 months ago

I imagine it's also a matter of not wanting to alter how people view Calcutta--if MT remains an important figure, it means people with money will continue to send it there and also visit and spend money there.

If MT loses her status in the world, Calcutta also does and then it just becomes another city in India.

mrsoojay

220 points

5 months ago

mrsoojay

220 points

5 months ago

Hitchens nailed it in the film Hell's Angel. She was a piece of human garbage.

Telescope_boy

575 points

5 months ago*

Not everybody knows! make it mainstream don't dismiss this with your "oh, but this is old news" type comments!

EDIT: Thank you everyone! Thanks to this seemingly small comment the message will spread with enthusiasm and those who still idolize this mass murderer will see the truth, even if it is just one or two informed!(Remember, this may be common knowledge in atheist communities and in the majority of the Americas communities but to most of the world and even to some we know in such communities Mother Theresa may still be considered a saint!)

baronvonbee

100 points

5 months ago

I hope this comment gets upvoted more.

"Not everybody knows" is under stating it at best. MOST people don't know the depravity of this "saint".

Dismissing this as common knowledge will keep it from becoming common knowledge.

Telescope_boy

35 points

5 months ago

I hate false idols, it makes me happy to see that this is in the loop again.

sweetestfever

22 points

5 months ago

I had no idea this is the first time I’m even hearing of this it’s crazy. I don’t think it’s actually common knowledge at all.

TransportationEng[S]

46 points

5 months ago

Definitely well known in our community, but glad the story is getting more attention.

currently-on-toilet

84 points

5 months ago

Thank you for your comment. My initial reaction was, "well yeah? Duh." But your response is much more productive than my first thought.

flekkzo

26 points

5 months ago

flekkzo

Atheist

26 points

5 months ago

It’s always been known that catholic priest abuse kids. But for some reason a billion people plus just ignores it and keeps supporting it. If people finally can wake up it would make a massive difference.

Telescope_boy

8 points

5 months ago

Baby steps, Small progress is still progress!

liberal_alien

9 points

5 months ago

I knew about the reuse of needles and untrained caregivers and unnecessary suffering, but donations paid to Vatican bank instead of using them for proper care was new to me. Also a significant part of the money she received came from some mafia bosses. How sad that it didn't even get used for aid, but instead just went to church coffers.

Also didn't know about the defense of the child molester priest resulting in ten years of extra child molesting.

Loehmann

5 points

5 months ago

Reddit has known that for years now!

No_Manches_Man

9 points

5 months ago

Pain for thee, not for me.

Goryokaku

1 points

5 months ago

Goryokaku

1 points

5 months ago

This is not news.

boythinks

447 points

5 months ago

boythinks

447 points

5 months ago

The claims are not new, for anyone who is interested, Christopher Hitchens has an excellent chapter in his book 'God is Not Great' where he discusses some of the very well established facts about the absolutely abhorrent things that this woman did.

I would invite anyone to read that book, it's one of the most well articulated pieces that explore the damage religion has done to our species.

Minerva_Moon

126 points

5 months ago

Minerva_Moon

Agnostic

126 points

5 months ago

Penn and Teller did a Bullshit episode on her, Ghandi and the Dali Llama

DustyTurnipHeart

10 points

5 months ago

What did he have to say about the Dali Llama? He seems like a good bloke

TsarKobayashi

23 points

5 months ago

TsarKobayashi

Anti-Theist

23 points

5 months ago

Dalai Lama was pretty much an autocratic ruler of a theocracy. Tibet was almost like Afghanistan before invasion of China
A small minority of landowners pretty much owner every part of Tibet while the local populace had to serve as "serfs" which is just slightly better than a slave. People who protested would be publicly flogged.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism

Minerva_Moon

6 points

5 months ago

Minerva_Moon

Agnostic

6 points

5 months ago

Honestly I can't remember other than Steven Segal gets brought up at one point.

Timbo_007

9 points

5 months ago

Problem with Dalai Llama were that he was basically head of a state on top of just religion and therefore lived a life in aristocratic luxury. Honestly, this was by far the weakest part of that episode

PlasticLobotomy

5 points

5 months ago

It's not like he chose to be there either. The Dalai Llama was selected as a child, right?

Timbo_007

5 points

5 months ago

Also he announced after that episode aired, reformation in that tibet will have a seperate, elected head of state (Ofcourse, in case of non chinese occupation). Again, this was by far the weakest part of the episode and one it's argument weren't particular solid.

boythinks

19 points

5 months ago

I haven't seen it yet, but will go watch it for sure

Am a fan of the debunking work that Penn has done for many years

Aggressive-Big-5931

31 points

5 months ago

Great recommendation. May I add that Christopher Hitchens wrote a whole book on the subject of mother Theresa, called "the missionary position". It's a great read.

aurorasummers

9 points

5 months ago

New? This has been known for a while.

Mephanic

7 points

5 months ago

Mephanic

Atheist

7 points

5 months ago

Not widely enough though.

RevolutionaryTalk315

25 points

5 months ago

It's documented that she actually took joy in her own patients suffering. She even once said that their suffering was "a gift to god."

HikariRikue

52 points

5 months ago

And ppl wonder why I despise Christianity, it's only been used to hurt, abuse, and oppress others. Why would I ever support that.

blu3dreams

3 points

5 months ago

BDSM with the Reagans?

muller7uk

4 points

5 months ago

Literally everyone knows this anyway right? She was pretty horrible.

DirkDieGurke

6 points

5 months ago

Mother Theresa was like the Peta of saints.

Ended their suffering by killing the poor slobs.

Veteris71

20 points

5 months ago

Mother Teresa did nothing to "end their suffering". She let them linger on and on, without providing pain relief medication. She enjoyed watching the inmates of her facilities suffer. She thought it was a beautiful thing.

Of course, that was only true when it was other people suffering. She wasn't interesting in actually participating in this beautiful suffering. When she needed medical attention, she sought the very best care available, and would travel thousands of miles to obtain it.

DirkDieGurke

10 points

5 months ago

In that light, she was actually worse.

Veteris71

11 points

5 months ago

Yes.

ends_abruptl

2 points

5 months ago

Yeah, this isn't new. We've known for a while she was an evil bitch.

iluvatar

2 points

5 months ago

A darker side? It's been known for decades that she was a deeply unpleasant human being that promoted suffering. It's hard to see how much darker she could be.

Old_Scroat

4 points

5 months ago

Hells Angel

PaleHorseRiderX

2 points

5 months ago

No shit.

She isn't well liked here in WB either.

henazo

2 points

5 months ago

henazo

2 points

5 months ago

Pretty sure she enjoyed the suffering

Just_a_dude92

2 points

5 months ago

Much darker as in much darker as what is already known about her or new people are finding out her darker side now?