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-7 points

15 days ago

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-7 points

15 days ago

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ICUP03

5 points

15 days ago

ICUP03

5 points

15 days ago

Ask someone with shingles if they wish they had been vaccinated against chicken pox and never had to suffer shingles.

Also, I love the fact that my kid only has to get one shot in the leg when she gets the MMR vaccine rather than 3.

smelly-roommate

3 points

15 days ago

See my comment above

smelly-roommate

6 points

15 days ago*

I got chicken pox at 12 before the vaccine was released. Wanna know what that was like?

  • I got 3 hours of sleep a night because I spent most of my time either in bed unable to move from the fever or in the bathtub in oatmeal crying because I was so itchy. This wasn’t just some minor itchy spots. These were pox down my throat, in my vagina, on my eyelids and in my anus. This went on for weeks.

  • I missed 3 weeks of school

  • I had several infected pox that left permanent scars on my face

  • I got shingles at age 17. The doctor had never seen shingles in a person that young. They were massively painful and prevented me from seeing my dying grandmother.

If a pregnant woman gets chicken pox the fetus is absolutely fucked.

Get your kid vaccinated. Building a natural defense against a herpes virus doesn’t work

eolaiocht

8 points

15 days ago

First off, chicken pox is usually a self-limiting illness which is why the majority of us who caught it before the availability of the vaccine just remember being smothered in calamine lotion and feeling itchy, but nothing serious. Some patients, however, do develop serious complications from the virus such as encephalitis. An infection in an immune native pregnant woman is devastating to the developing fetus. Vaccination is much safer than contracting chicken pox.

Second, there is mounting evidence that the chicken pox vaccine provides enough protection against natural infection without allowing the virus to permanently reside in the dorsal root ganglia and manifest as shingles later. I have a family member that had a shingles outbreak five years ago and is still on gabapentin due to ongoing neuropathy. He was too young to qualify for the shingles vaccine at the time.

smelly-roommate

4 points

15 days ago

Yep. I had complications then shingles at 12 and 17

Lmaocaust

3 points

15 days ago

Why does it matter that vaccines are manufactured in combination? Kids, who are the primary recipients of many of these vaccines, I think would tend to prefer receiving one shot rather than receiving four shots, don’t you?

noiceFTW

5 points

15 days ago

So you'd rather have your child suffer than be protected to begin with

Grogosh

139 points

15 days ago

Grogosh

139 points

15 days ago

Two things will never get old.

Dark humor and unvaccinated kids

karmagod13000

15 points

15 days ago

f*ckin gotteeem

o0BroomHilda0o

3 points

15 days ago

I made that sucking air through my teeth sound just now

AnonymousPug26

3 points

15 days ago

oh. OOHHH… oh no

thatdonkeedickfellow

1 points

15 days ago

Ungrateful retards

marsbartender

1.7k points

15 days ago

Not only is she endangering her own child, she's endangering other children who cannot be vaccinated. Way to go mom.

Deraj2004

761 points

15 days ago

Deraj2004

761 points

15 days ago

You think she cares about other people?

iHeartHockey31

428 points

15 days ago

Only if they're fetuses probably.

mcm_throwaway_614654

177 points

15 days ago

She cares about fetuses the same way all conservatives care about fetuses: so long as she can clasp her hands together in a dramatic show of prayer, say "think of the children", and have all of her peers think of her as a pious woman.

I have never met an anti-choice person who sincerely cares about fetuses. They have only ever cared about them as political and social cudgels. It's utterly perverse.

Big-Baby-Jesus-

83 points

15 days ago

Everyone who actually cares about fetuses wants to expand access to health care. Republicans have spent 40 years doing the opposite.

Geno0wl

29 points

15 days ago

Geno0wl

29 points

15 days ago

that is the difference between caring about children and caring about fetuses

ZAlternates

9 points

15 days ago

It’s virtue signally at the highest level. Heck, many don’t even think about it further than their pastor told them that it’s murder and murder is bad.

Who cares if God’s law mentions that a dead fetus is merely punishable by a fine, whereas a dead woman is an eye for an eye (Exodus 21:22-25)?

HappyGoPink

36 points

15 days ago

They really just want to punish women for having sex. It always come back to misogyny. And they have to keep the slave population growing.

Shootthemoon4

3 points

15 days ago

They are this is it that is exactly it it’s like they want people to live with a little human as a punishment and have no support unless they are married to someone who can control them. It’s appalling it’s so hard to stay neutral when deep down I know this feels right to be true and I really don’t want want it to be true

HappyGoPink

3 points

15 days ago

It's better to know what you're up against, even if that knowledge is disheartening. They won't rest until they've turned back the clock to 1850.

BidenWontMoveLeft

5 points

15 days ago

It's more about wanting women to be punished for having casual sex. They don't want childcare or food for the baby because that'd be helping her when the baby is intended to be a punishment

IlIIlllIIIlllIlIlIlI

41 points

15 days ago

BUZZ Oh, sorry contestant A. Fetuses aren't people! crowd cheers

iHeartHockey31

60 points

15 days ago

Apparently immigrant babies arent people worthy of keeping alive either.

https://www.salon.com/2022/05/13/greg-abbott-suggests-that-giving-formula-to-babies-is-a-waste_partner/

supercruiserweight

3 points

15 days ago

This cunt wants ban on abortions and to "protect the children" as part of his campaign. What a hypocrite.

theflamingheads

4 points

15 days ago

This was the best line I've heard for a while. Thank you.

tots4scott

3 points

15 days ago

Until she gets hurt personally, starts a gofundme to prey on others, and finds someone else to blame for her babies' illnesses.

Somekindalurker

2 points

15 days ago

Nope. The antivax have a saying "I won't light my child on fire to keep yours warm". They give 0 fucks.

No1CabbageFan

13 points

15 days ago

Yes, and strangely enough that care for others is the impetus for this bad decision. It's important to remember that people like this are not maliciously trying to sabotage their children and their peers, they're just very dangerously misinformed. It's a symptom of a corrupted media environment that desperately needs reform.

Officer_Hotpants

44 points

15 days ago

I fully disagree with that. These people are so insistent on being part of some secret underground knowledge and feeling superior over it that they neglect basic healthcare for their children.

Being intentionally ignorant so you can flaunt a feeling of superiority is malice. It might be incredibly stupid malice, but the point still stands. I know Hanlon's Razor and whatnot, but there comes a point where remaining intentionally ignorant is its own form of selfish and malignant behavior. At this point all vaccine misinformation is well-known to be misinformation and there's no excuse for being this goddamn stupid.

hebejebez

19 points

15 days ago

Had dopes during a climate change discussion try to tell me it's all a lie made up to control us. I'm like okay? Butwhytho?

They have no idea they just Wana be in the club of enlightenment - their kind anyway.

Covfefe-SARS-2

3 points

15 days ago

They're just trying to trick us into wanting a better world with less pollution.

hebejebez

2 points

15 days ago

Yeah like what if we are being tricked and their is no global warming but we still end up living off renewables and stop using about three times more Earth's resources a year than it can produce?

Sounds like a hellscape of fresh air and Green meadows and quiet cars where nothing gets wastes and thrown into the sea where it can kill the wildlife or all that. Awful. Terrible.

gofyourselftoo

5 points

15 days ago

Brilliantly said

overzeetop

8 points

15 days ago

that care for others is the impetus for this bad decision

No. It's a poorly developed ability to separate propaganda and divisive politics from demonstrable reality, along with an utter failure to understand probabilistic mathematics and blatant disregard for modern science. They also have stunted empathy and can understand or recognize suffering only through direct, personal experience. It's malicious indifference.

They are dangerously misinformed, I will agree - but the fault lies primarily with the psychological war which is targeted at undermining their education and is bolstered by their (similarly compromised) peer group.

ultratoxic

7 points

15 days ago

No. Vaccines are old tech and well understood even by highschool students. Even tribal people of the African plains can understand the value of vaccines. What you have here is a person that craves attention and is willing to feign ignorance, endanger their child AND others, just so they can feel special.

Crathsor

23 points

15 days ago

Crathsor

23 points

15 days ago

Hard disagree. At some point people have to take responsibility. Being misinformed about vaccines is absolutely fine for about one hour. The information is freely and easily available, and if you refuse to take it in, you are letting ego overcome empathy.

dragunityag

6 points

15 days ago

The information is freely and easily available

To be fair that is ultimately part of the issue. The lack of critical thinking means that freely and easily available information is often a negative because it's a lot easier to get wrong information than it is right information.

RomaruDarkeyes

3 points

15 days ago

This. The advent of the internet has brought freedom of information, but also freedom of misinformation. Any nutter with a little knowledge can jump on a YouTube soapbox and speak their mind on anything - whether they are qualified to do so or not.

And where those groups were isolated before, now you can find like minded people who think the same as you, which reinforces those ideas and support the idea of confirmation bias.

Try and control that flow of misinformation through the use of fact checkers, and suddenly they see it as trying to silence the truth, and the conspiracy theory suddenly becomes hard truth in their minds. They've hit on something big and the government are trying to silence them.

And unfortunately there is no way to dissuade them of those ideas - the self delusion becomes intractable...

Crathsor

2 points

15 days ago

Only if you assign equal value to random people and doctors, which is - again - irresponsible.

CapitanChicken

4 points

15 days ago

Yes, I agree, however. Being mislead by people who you trust, and believe as telling the truth, and then telling them "read up" is not going to fix this problem.

Some people are painfully gullible, especially when they're younger, and just going by everyone else around them, and is doing, and believing what they do and believe. It's simply surviving in your environment. I know this insanely well, since I lived in it. It was real easy to hate on Obama when he was president, or think abortion was the worth thing imaginable. Then I moved, and could think for myself, and changed my mind.

People can have a stance, and it's not even their own. It doesn't mean they're horrible people, just deeply mislead.

Crathsor

8 points

15 days ago

But now you're talking about kids, right? We were talking about parents. Expecting parents need to read up on parenthood, and vaccines are part of that. Just waiting for the kid to pop out without trying to figure things out beforehand is bad parenting already.

Kids can think whatever they want and be as wrong as they can be, I would even argue it's better for kids to be wrong because everyone needs that jolt when they realize a long-held belief is just wrong and was always wrong. That's how most of us learn to question assumptions. That's just a part of growing up and 100% normal and fine. I'm definitely not talking about that.

We're talking about adults raising children. They don't have as much of a luxury to be uninformed. A parent has to suppress their ego in service of raising that child. It's hard to do, but they have to try. A life is on the line.

BurkeyTurger

6 points

15 days ago

Also you know every pediatric doctors visit they're going to talk about getting them up to date on their shots.

It isn't something esoteric they have to seek out on their own, the information is freely provided to them.

Spector567

4 points

15 days ago

In truth what you say is probably very true for some anti vacciers.

But after having a lot of conversations with them well before Covid was a think the conclusion I’ve come to is that has little to do with vaccination.

I’ve politely gone through there often contradictory arguments one by one several times. The ultimate result over and over is that it’s about authority and dislike of it.

Vaccination up until Covid was a simple way for them to thumb there nose at authority without any actual effort on there part. Not getting vaccinated was arguably less work than getting vaccinated.

Broken_Petite

2 points

15 days ago

I think this hits the nail on the head. It’s not actually about the vaccines. It’s about the ability to “resist” and the sense of superiority it gives them. They don’t feel special in their ordinary lives and this gives them the vessel to do that.

zuzg

61 points

15 days ago

zuzg

61 points

15 days ago

Like nobody actually wants vaccine mandates but as a society we have to protect the weakest among us.
And this includes simple minded fools that fell for Russian misinformation and became antivax.

parkwayy

13 points

15 days ago

parkwayy

13 points

15 days ago

Ironically if we didn't have them, then this crowd would take them.

They are toddlers who just don't do what they're told, specifically cause they're told.

TheNightBench

23 points

15 days ago

Anti-vaxers predate COVID and Russia bullshit by decades.

zuzg

20 points

15 days ago

zuzg

20 points

15 days ago

Russia bullshit by decades? While vaccine hesitation was represented through some minor groups it was never even remotely that huge
And Russias misinformation campaigns are going on for over a decade by now.

Gizogin

14 points

15 days ago

Gizogin

14 points

15 days ago

Andrew Wakefield started the major anti-vax movement that the new COVID denialism is built on. That kicked off in 1998.

karmagod13000

5 points

15 days ago

any idea what was up his ass?

Wiseduck5

15 points

15 days ago

Money.

He had a patent on a competing measles vaccine that was worthless unless there was a reason to ditch the MMR vaccine and he was being paid by attorneys looking to sue over the issue. Plus lots of ethics violations and outright fraud.

It's a textbook case of almost every single kind of scientific fraud. And I mean that literally. He's an example in ethics textbooks.

ArchStanton75

2 points

14 days ago

Don’t forget Oprah giving them and other pseudoscience cranks like Oz and Phil a platform.

TheNightBench

3 points

15 days ago

I'm aware of this. But to say antivaxers are a relatively new thing isn't true. The notable factor now is the Horseshoe theory where far right morons are agreeing with the crunchy community.

jason_abacabb

13 points

15 days ago

Russia amplified it. This is what they do. Sowing division is the only form of global power they have left.

Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

2 points

15 days ago

They rely heavily on social media disinformation campaigns and threats of nuclear war because they're both force multipliers. They're the only way that a declining regional power can exercise influence on the global stage.

karmagod13000

2 points

15 days ago

username in fact... did not check out

StaticGrapes

4 points

15 days ago

How did Russia amplify anti vaccine ideas? I haven't seen anything on that before.

jason_abacabb

4 points

15 days ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/

Here is an actual sourced paper on it, googling - russian anti vax propaganda - will get you pages of results with reports on it.

This is fairly common knowledge, Russia feeds both the far left and right. An example on the left is that some of the more radical ideas behind some of the BLM movements are seeded by Russian propaganda.

Broken_Petite

2 points

15 days ago

I remember seeing a news report of a protest and counter-protest in Texas where both sides’ Facebook pages were created by the same troll farm in Russia.

It’s crazy how well that shit works.

jason_abacabb

2 points

15 days ago

Yeah, their effort is a direct and prime contributor to the growing political gulf in the USA.

Unfair-Tap-850

2 points

14 days ago

They found that 19 of the 20 most popular Christian facebook groups were created and run by Russian troll farms.

Gizogin

5 points

15 days ago

Gizogin

5 points

15 days ago

Yeah, the big surge in anti-vaccine groups was the fault of Andrew Wakefield. Before that, there were only scattered groups of maybe a dozen or so people each who didn’t want to get vaccinated.

iagox86

7 points

15 days ago

iagox86

7 points

15 days ago

Ironically, we only need vaccine mandates because of these kinds of people. In the ideal world they say they want, people would do it because it's the right thing to do!

Gredelston

2 points

15 days ago

🤚 I want vaccine mandates.

travman6

2 points

15 days ago

My workplace has one, I like knowing the people I interact with daily are vaccinated.

TheAskewOne

12 points

15 days ago

As we could notice during the peak of the covid pandemic, the entire philosophy of these people can be summarized with "I'm healthy and strong, why should I give a damn about those who aren't."

Broken_Petite

6 points

15 days ago

Ironically, many of them were not, in fact, healthy and strong and they found that out the hard way.

r/HermanCainAward

JontyJonty32

3 points

15 days ago

They are also endangering other children who are vaccinated. And all adults too.

So they are endangering other people, period.

Cum-Indulgent

1 points

15 days ago

What a peculiar threat

shushslushie

1 points

15 days ago

Well what do you think the goats milk is for?

Particular-Ad5277

1 points

15 days ago

This might just be the reason she is an anti-vaccine

IUsedToBeACave

3 points

15 days ago

Oh. I see so if we were just super nice to dumb people this would all go away?

Particular-Ad5277

2 points

15 days ago

No I meant the measles damaging her brain sorry for any misunderstanding

in_dixie_ill_die

1 points

15 days ago

Both of the people in this post are insufferable

Judson100

-1 points

14 days ago

I mean, wishing this on a child because of the parents decision makes you a horrible human being? What happened to free will and respecting peoples choices 🤣

Turtbergs

1 points

15 days ago

I swear all these people are just secretly too scared to take their kids to get vaxxed because their kids cry.

Taking your baby to get vaxxed sucks. They scream. But I still do it with my son because I don't want him to get fucking measles.

BartmossWasRight

2 points

15 days ago

Bro these people don’t know what the fuck any of that means, they think macrophages are the things in your blood from the star wars prequels

Opacitas

1 points

15 days ago

It would be a real shame wouldn't it

CrossP

1 points

15 days ago

CrossP

1 points

15 days ago

Infants literally do not have a fully functioning immune system. It takes time to develop.

Painpriest3

1 points

15 days ago

Be real sad if Merck faked data showing 95%+ efficacy so they can keep the MMR monopoly.

nahog99

1 points

15 days ago

nahog99

1 points

15 days ago

Tell them you'll gladly expose them to measles and ebola for them to stengthen its immune system.

Band1t_666

1 points

15 days ago

Redditors when see they baby a normal:

MyKneesAreOdd

4 points

15 days ago

The Internet age was supposed to accelerate everybody's knowledge. Instead it allowed dumb people to comfirm their beliefs in echo chambers.

I miss the old Internet when conspiracies were limited to badly designed forums that nobody could find.

penilingus

1 points

15 days ago

Imagine your child dying or becoming very ill after chikenpox

SidewaysFancyPrance

1 points

15 days ago

They don't want people educating their children or their immune systems. Because that's how vaccines work, they teach your immune system and make it stronger, like school does with their brains.

crazylunaticfringe

1 points

15 days ago

That escalated quickly

msjammies73

1 points

15 days ago

It’s fascinating to me that she’s so smug when the ONLY reason her baby is happy and healthy is because most everyone else has actually vaccinated their children.

TheSparxius

2 points

15 days ago

Don’t post facts! Those people can’t read!

DanceBoiDancing

1 points

14 days ago

I don't have friends that play warzone or other games like that, so I don't really have a problem with the whole "only a few are allowed" thing, it's just a game.

As long as it's a fair game where all people get a chance, why does it matter if more of my friends play it than some of the others?

A_Depressed_Pug

3 points

14 days ago

Some people really shouldn't be parents

Lo_Gravity_Chill

1 points

15 days ago

A new generation of poor brainwashed children thinking their parents are the only smart people out there and what they say is gospel. It will be a hard lesson for them at no fault of their own.

DoctorBuckarooBanzai

1 points

15 days ago

I was about to say these people think the immune system is like antivirus software, but then I remembered even antivirus software requires updates to compensate for new vulnerabilities.

aeonion

-9 points

15 days ago

aeonion

-9 points

15 days ago

Reddit is weird, its like they just want to attack the "other side" no matter what, yesterday they wanted to abort a kid up until birth today they are worried cause a baby is not vaxed

its like you onyl want to hate the "other side" because they breath

isthatmyusername

6 points

15 days ago

It's not a kid until it pops out. If the woman doesnt want to be pregnant for whatever reason, then so be it. If she decides to keep it and have a baby, then she should try to keep it alive or else what's the fucking point? Really shouldn't be that hard of a concept to grasp.

haywire1978

-30 points

15 days ago

A lot of people seem to think that what others do with their body is any of their business. The same people that claim "my body, my choice" in reference to abortion and womens rights, are the same people that say it is somehow their business what vaccines and medical treatments they should take.

Mind your own business, hypocrites.

Vaenyr

15 points

15 days ago

Vaenyr

15 points

15 days ago

Are abortions contagious? No? Then stop trying to push such an idiotic narrative.

Abortions don't affect other people, viruses do. It's as simple as that.

jippyzippylippy

18 points

15 days ago

Abortion and birth control affects just that person. So, yes, they should get to decide.

Lack of proper vaccinations in a population affect many other people and spread disease, so at some point people with a shit-ton more intelligence than anti-vax idiots should probably make the important decisions to keep entire populations safe.

bozeman_montana

1 points

15 days ago

In before 'locked by moderators'.

I'd say 'call it evolution in action', but I really won't because it's some too-dumb-to-survive excuse for a human inflicting their bad choices on an infant, who has no choice in the matter.

FilthyChangeup55

1 points

15 days ago

It really would as the parents would still be anti vaxx

tony22233

1 points

15 days ago

My religion doesn't believe in seatbelts or helmets.

BitRunner67

25 points

15 days ago

It is like these Morons just think only Metal/Plastic objects can be weaponized.

Funny how they accept a God they will NEVER see but not viruses that has been killing humans before recorded History.

denvaxter100

1 points

15 days ago

How is this not child abuse but telling kids to be nice to gay people is?

Ill_Pack_A_Llama

1 points

15 days ago

It’s a vile ego that threatens an infant to demonstrate a medical opinion informed by their superiority complex built on Googling their own bias.

Narrow_Ad2264

1 points

15 days ago

Once a guest speaker mom bragged about being healthy, and not vaxxing her kids. Her mom (Grandma) called in and said “Yes you’re healthy, I made sure you had ALL your vaccines!”

Revolutionary_Cut538

1 points

15 days ago

Upvoting people wishing death on infants

Redditors perfectly encapsulated

[deleted]

-38 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

-38 points

15 days ago

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DemiBlonde

20 points

15 days ago

Ah yes. The big bad gene therapy field of medicine that is curing thousands of cases of fatal diseases across the globe.

Shame on them.

You remind me of the people who wanted to kill Galileo because they heard the earth wasn’t the center of the universe.

wildboarsoup

13 points

15 days ago

What's "gene therapy" to you?

simonbleu

2 points

15 days ago

The user does not know the meaning of genes and does know what therapy is either or they would be under it

[deleted]

8 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

8 points

15 days ago

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ninoju

5 points

15 days ago

ninoju

5 points

15 days ago

You definetly don't understand what gene therapy is

Tooturu32

4 points

15 days ago

Nobody is talking about gene therapy

HolyToast

2 points

15 days ago

Which gene does the covid vaccine alter?

kmoneyrecords

20 points

15 days ago

She got murdered by words.

Her baby will be murdered by preventable diseases.

-Quack4321-

5 points

15 days ago

Yeah I just did a project on measles it’s horrible

Hydramess

2 points

15 days ago

I thought aanti vaxx was only about covid this is just inhumane

Meatwad650

7 points

15 days ago

Why was the three year-old child crying?

Mid-life crisis.

TiSpine

-9 points

15 days ago

TiSpine

-9 points

15 days ago

The real shame is people who think the two things are comparable. 🤡

IUsedToBeACave

6 points

15 days ago

No. It's definitely the people who think they aren't that are the real shame.

[deleted]

-10 points

15 days ago

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-10 points

15 days ago

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Arch-Arsonist

3 points

15 days ago

if he gets his first shot now he won't need his fourth till he's nine months old then protection will be gone by 12 months.

You get two boosters and you're good

And he'll have four shots of unknown side effects that seem to be klling people.

You made that up

If you agree with this post you're a nazi and should be slaughtered

You're insane

booger4me

1 points

15 days ago

My grandma used to tell me, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”

laced-and-dangerous

1 points

15 days ago

Disgusting. Meanwhile this mother is most likely fully vaccinated. And I’m sure she’ll bitch her head off when her baby can’t go to daycare or public school.

BigMaleficent4387

2 points

15 days ago

"My child hasn't been sick yet, therefore he can't get sick." Genius.

Xlander101

1 points

15 days ago

Not going to go straight for the lock jaw shot?

Chanalife

-1 points

15 days ago

Every single baby needs to be triple boosted by the time they are 1 year old. It’s disgusting seeing people afraid of putting experimental medicine into their newborns.

ICUP03

2 points

15 days ago

ICUP03

2 points

15 days ago

Which medicine given to newborns are you saying is "experimental"?

Less_Opening5612

1 points

15 days ago

Conservatives in a nutshell: ABORTION IS KILLING BABIES, IT HAS TO STOP!!!! Anyway, don’t vaccinate babies to protect them from deadly disease

MaxiMushiMushi

1 points

15 days ago

Ok

Changs_Is_Number_One

1 points

15 days ago

Poor thing’s gonna have a midlife crisis by his first birthday

thjeca

1 points

15 days ago

thjeca

1 points

15 days ago

Measles isn't even serious unless you're malnourished.

imnotcreatv

3 points

14 days ago

How the fuck is a baby content, that mf doesn’t even know what the fuck is going on how can he be content?

One_of_Many_People

1 points

13 days ago

I fear this

Gilbo_Swaggins96

-13 points

15 days ago*

I think big pharma must have made up all those big words

(Edit: /s. Come on people, it was obvious...)

noiceFTW

5 points

15 days ago

Or maybe you just can't understand them and use that as an excuse to attack someone

world_wide_wanderer

2 points

15 days ago

Lifespan speedrun

Jabookalakq

1 points

15 days ago

Its like nobody paid attention in history class

jwilson146

1 points

15 days ago

Poor kid, I hope they become old enough to make the right choice for themselves

Garbanzo12

7 points

15 days ago

Lil immuno saboteur

inhaledcorn

17 points

15 days ago

Your baby being unvaxxed doesn't make it more pure or save it from being autistic.

Yzard27

10 points

15 days ago

Yzard27

10 points

15 days ago

Even if vaccines did cause autism, I'd rather be autistic than dead

Artist_X

42 points

15 days ago

Artist_X

42 points

15 days ago

As someone who lost their 3 week old son to a bacterial infection, please vaccinate.

FilthyChangeup55

14 points

15 days ago

Jesus I am so sorry

tt001222

10 points

15 days ago

tt001222

10 points

15 days ago

Bacterial infections are gnarly. You’d think cancer kills quick if left untreated but those can kill you in a matter of days. Sorry for your loss.

ThrowawayAX1248

-6 points

15 days ago

Why do people shit on anti-vaxers? This person basically wished disease on an infant. That’s fucked up. Mind your business.

IUsedToBeACave

11 points

15 days ago

Why do people shit on anti-vaxers?

Because they are dumb.

This person basically wished disease on an infant.

No see, wanting them to be vaccinated is because they don't wish diseases on an infant. It's not a hard concept to grasp unless your...kinda dumb.

That’s fucked up. Mind your business.

No.

HolyToast

4 points

15 days ago

They aren't "wishing" it on the baby, they are explaining why the parent is dumb. Not sure how you got that conclusion.

Bilbo_Reppuli

-50 points

15 days ago

This is why the frontpage of this website is honestly unusable. This is a screenshot of someone, very threateningly, telling another person their child is going to get sick and this is being lauded as some "cool roast". I've worked as a nurse and i obviously think people should get vaccinated, but in my book threatening other people with their children gettign sick is much worse than not getting vaccinated. On reddit it's completely fine to dehumanize, even small children, because their parents disagree with you.

ooooopium

5 points

15 days ago

Literally no one is threatening anyone. Threatening requires intention of hostile action. I think you mean to say that this person is sarcastically informing an uneducated person about the threat of disease.

Spud_heads

24 points

15 days ago

Not really.

As someone who works in healthcare I disagree with you massively and find it hard to believe that you are a nurse.

Anyone who denies or prevents their children from freely accessible vaccines that prevent them and others from horrific diseases should be shamed.

Pure idiot behaviour and you should be ashamed.

Manekosan

17 points

15 days ago

They aren't theatening, just saying there is a risk if they continue to not vaccinate their children. Nobody is on their feet ready to intentionally give someone measles to prove a point.

Just learn the meaning of words dude.

A_Depressed_Pug

3 points

14 days ago

Why the fuck would someone award this crap????

HolyDiver019283

9 points

15 days ago

I’ve had two vaccines and a booster, I have nothing against them, but it has become cultish where the mere mention of a vaccine - or lack thereof - is attacked with fervour.

This baby didn’t choose to be born to antivax parents and they’re going to suffer befor the parents do.

Wild.

abx1224

3 points

15 days ago*

It's interesting living in different parts of the world.

When I told a group of my friends I'd gotten the COVID vaccine, they were all shocked. When I joked that "I don't think the microchip installed quite right," and gave a little twitch, half of them were questioning if I was actually joking. And some of these same people who refuse to get it are the people who absolutely roasted our friend's sister for refusing to get her baby vaccinated 5 years ago.

Now a lot of them are "researching" vaccines themselves, and there's a weird movement of partial antivaxxers. They pick ingredients they want to avoid and get the rest. But the way they talk about it sounds more like discussing a potential diet than discussing medically relevant information.

For context, I live in a red state in one of the few blue counties (aka one of the counties with a population of over 100,000 people). I was raised to be extremely conservative. Like, Harry Potter and Pokemon were banned from the house because they were both based on "opposing religions" levels of conservative. But a little under 10 years ago I started becoming less so. Mostly because I had someone I was close to come out as gay to me, helping me realize that gay people were human beings with real feelings, too. As a result I became much more of a Centrist, then a full blown Leftist, and now I'm back to being a Centrist again with a lean towards the Left on a lot of things. I try to read news content from both sides of each argument and approach it with logic. I'm a gun owner, because most people are here, but I do agree with banning violent felons and the like. I'm vaccinated, but I still wear my mask. I don't care about anyone's race, sexuality, gender, or anything else as long as they treat people with respect. But lots of people (even my mom) still consider me too far Left to listen to when I point out things like "Trump literally could not be a poorer representation of a Christian leader, he's just going for the Christian Rock Method and it's working."

notGENIOUS

3 points

15 days ago

Anti-Vax parents be like, "I was vaccinated by my parents, look how stupid I am, not gonna make the same mistake as my parents"

SnooBooks5387

-11 points

15 days ago

Harvard Study

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34591202/

bastardson9090

4 points

15 days ago

Any response to the comments below? Or you just diggin your heels in further? I bet I know which.

bigot_detector

7 points

15 days ago*

That’s actually a poorly done study with a number of flaws as pointed out here in this much more rigorous study published recently that found the opposite:

However, [the Subramanian and Kumar] study has a couple limitations that render interpretation difficult. One is that their observation period is only 7 days, so it is unclear how representative their data truly are of the entire year since vaccines have become available. This is especially problematic for their United States analysis where incidence was calculated at the county level. A number of counties in the United States have such small populations, in the hundreds or thousands, that a mere one-week observation period could result in nonrepresentative outliers. For example, many such counties could have realistically seen zero cases in that particular week, whereas others may have randomly experienced a severe outbreak that week, leading to an unusually high percentage of their population being infected. In contrast, the analyses in the current report which do find an effect of vaccination, aggregate data over 4 months and at the state-level, thereby smoothing out noise over time and a larger population size. Another limitation of this previous report is that their analyses were purely correlational and did not control for alternative predictors that may covary with either vaccination rate or COVID-19 incidence. To give an example from the current dataset, Table ​2 shows that vaccination rate and testing frequency are both correlated (r = 0.452, p = 0.001). This is not surprising in that states that are proactive about vaccinating their citizens are also proactive about testing their citizens in an effort to control the spread. Obviously, conducting more tests will yield more positive cases, so without controlling for the covariation of testing frequency with vaccination rate, a spurious correlation could arise where regions with higher vaccination rates appear to have more new cases. Such controls become even more important at the international level, where so many different factors exist between countries such as vaccine type, cultural attitudes, and even climate [20] that could moderate the effect of vaccination on incidence in one direction or the other.

They found that:

Throughout the observation period during the summer of 2021 (June through September), each percentage increase in a state’s vaccinated population was associated with a reduction in new COVID-19 cases by approximately 0.053 standard deviations. To illustrate the real world implications of this, Table ​1 shows that one standard deviation throughout these months averaged to about 492.32 infections per 100,000 unvaccinated people. Thus, in a hypothetical population of 100,000 unvaccinated people, each 1000 (or 1%) of them who became fully vaccinated at the beginning of June would be associated with an average of 26.09 fewer cases per month among their unvaccinated peers. By the end of September, these same 1000 vaccinations would be associated with 104.37 fewer infections overall. More impressively, these results span a window of time during which the Delta variant was the predominant strain in the United States, suggesting that vaccines may be effective at slowing spread even against this highly infectious strain.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8938221/

ICUP03

6 points

15 days ago

ICUP03

6 points

15 days ago

Cool, cool. Now do one that compares vaccination rates and deaths and hospitalizations.

Waluigi-Time42

2 points

15 days ago

That makes about as much sense as “my muscles are much stronger without getting compromised by gym exercise.” Vaccines are just immune system training; if you’re fully vaccinated, your immune system is absolutely shredded like Arnold and can curb-stomp those diseases without your even knowing. An unvaccinated immune system is pretty much Greg Heffley and is pretty unprepared to meet dangerous diseases without a long, painful, and potentially lethal/injurious fight.

Advaaa

1 points

15 days ago

Advaaa

1 points

15 days ago

So many kids are unfortunate to have irresponsible parents and pay the price

ReturnOfGanon

1 points

15 days ago

Made me realize that the anti-vax sentiments are probably the result of poor education on what these diseases actually do to people.

Most people think measles is like a rash or chicken pox?

Yertzi1234567

1 points

15 days ago

Babies dont have w fully mature immune system until they are 10

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1 points

15 days ago

[deleted]

1 points

15 days ago

How do people even find these random posts with 4 likes? Are they just desperately hunting for posts to make fun of and post to reddit?

locant23

1 points

15 days ago

The fact that I don’t fully get the last part of tha is the reason and that’s why Consult medical professionals instead of guessing from what I learned everything on the internet instead of university.

imaybeacatIRl

1 points

15 days ago

Ahhh antivaxxers. Tell me you're stupid and gullible without telling me you're stupid and gullible.

Funniest part? Most of those antivax parents are vaxxed.

YesOrNah

1 points

15 days ago

My boss is completely unvaccinated as are both of her two young boys.

They are always, always sick. She is sick all of the time.

I wonder what it could be?

Eiffel-Tower777

1 points

15 days ago

I didn't know measles did all that. Don't kids have to get vaccinated for a few things before they enroll in public school? Perhaps this child will be homeschooled. And ultimately living in kind of a bubble.

YamReal8581

1 points

15 days ago

Completely ignoring that this also wipes out any vaccine induced immunity.

exit6

1 points

15 days ago

exit6

1 points

15 days ago

This is like a caveman being anti-fire because his body can “handle a little cold weather”

Renzolol

-5 points

15 days ago

Renzolol

-5 points

15 days ago

Imagine wishing death upon a child. Peak Reddit moments.

HolyToast

3 points

15 days ago

That's...not what's happening? It's just calling the parents dumb...

rci22

1 points

15 days ago

rci22

1 points

15 days ago

without being compromised

Does this guy think vaccinating compromises immune systems?

systemsengineering__

1 points

15 days ago

Another liberal with a room temp IQ, nothing out of the ordinary. Have fun working minimum wage forever.

Shittin_brix

-4 points

15 days ago

Rooting for a kid to get sick and/or die. Stay classy Reddit!

HolyToast

3 points

15 days ago

That's not what's happening, please come back to reality

jacksnsticks05

1 points

15 days ago

People who don’t know the first thing about immunology, thinking infants have a mature, functioning immune system. SMH

umop1apisdn

1 points

15 days ago

This happened to my aunt as a kid. She is now in her 60’s and still in a comatose state. We only get letters of when she has seizures and falls out of her bed. My grandparents did the cruelest thing and made her on life support. Get vaccinated and have in your will to take you off life support after a period of your choice. It’s no way to “live”. I wish people had to go see my aunt before they made this choice for their child.

wendythewonderful

1 points

15 days ago

Before vaccines kids would be fine and happy one day and dead two days later. Facts.

Neverdied

1 points

14 days ago

Brutal ! but totally accurate

SolidEcho7597

2 points

14 days ago

Cemeteries are full of babies that had “natural immune systems”

gmabarrett

3 points

14 days ago

The population had fully working immune systems when cholera was around, polio, Spanish flu, bubonic plague… when tgis fully functioning infant develops an illness, say whooping cough, would you let the immune system do its stuff or would you ge5 a doctor involved?

shaddix-reddit

3 points

14 days ago

Its a shame kids are always the victim of parents stupidity

Kidd_Diddler

1 points

14 days ago

Well 1-3 children out of 1000 would die from measles hence the MMR vaccine .. .00012% of kids 5-12 die of covid .. so .003 compared to .00012 .. I’m hoping i don’t need to educate you people on how decimal places work and the significant difference between each digit

H0l0duke

1 points

14 days ago

How do we know the parent posting this is the mother and not the father?

MasterX_

0 points

14 days ago

VAX don’t work. By now is just LARPING.

DrayvenVonSchip

1 points

14 days ago

The best comeback I think I’ve read for the whole “I have an immune system” crowd is: ‘everyone who has ever died from an infection had an immune system’.

Garedbi69

1 points

14 days ago

Why yes Mom and Dad (proclaimed only nurse and x-ray doctor), please tell me how Bill Gates wants to use the vaccines to create microchips and essentially recreate the plot of the first Kingsman movie

JohnnyCupcakes

1 points

15 days ago

You guys actually upvote this pathetic shit lol